Yeah::: Upgrades look like they are going to disappear for the create a new server and migrate data option soon.
Most change windows: especially Enterprise wise:: could they really go down for 5-7 hours? NO! not happening.. so My guess is there is some sort of single FIFO job process single Java thread into the server needs to be change to something a little more robust. don't know what the answer is.. but I can see this as an issue... I have 64 CPU's and it took forever.. cpu never went over 6%... had tons of ram too... not sure what the answer is ? BMC Engineering might have a better clue... On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Jason Miller <[email protected]>wrote: > ** Congratulations! > > Could somebody from BMC explain what is happening during this time where > nothing appears to be happening? I remember having the same experience > during the 7.5 to 7.6.04 SP1 upgrade. The logs do not indicate that > anything is happening and a db trace shows very little activity. You just > have to hold your breath, have faith and hope for the best. > > Below is a snippet of our production upgrade notes the times of each > install. Fortunately I was able to take the system down for two days > because we only had three people using this new system for production data > (contracts). We finished just a hair past our 9 AM time to return to > production (I got lucky). > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Run ARSystem_7604SP1_Windows (5/25/2011 14:02 - 16:00) > • A handful of errors: > § arerror.log > § Wed May 25 15:01:05 2011 390600 : Could not find or read the > tags file. (ARNOTE 452) > § Wed May 25 15:01:05 2011 C:\Program Files\Common Files\AR > System\Licenses\<servername>\arsystem.tag > § Wed May 25 15:02:03 2011 390600 : The value(s) for this > entry violate a unique index that has been defined for this form (ARERR 382) > § Wed May 25 15:02:02 2011 390600 : Creation of an application > form failed. (ARERR 4550) > § An error regarding the email engine. > Run atrium7604SP1.win (5/25/2011 23:17 - 5/26/2011 13:21) > • RIK hung at 00:23, acknowledged and process started again at 08:03 > • Finished without further error > • The issues in test with Active Link guides after Atrium Core did not > happen in production > • Create Windows symbolic link to account for AIE directory change > § mklink /J "D:\Program Files (x86)\BMC > Software\AtriumCore\aie\service" "D:\Program Files (x86)\BMC > Software\AtriumCore\aie\service64" > Run BMCRemedyITSMSuite7604SP1.windows (5/26/2011 14:00 - 5/27/2011 07:33) > Run ServiceLevelManagement7.6.04.SP1.windows (5/27/2011 08:07 - 09:02) > Run BmcRkm7604SP1.windows (5/29/2001 23:30 - 5/30/2011 02:04) > Run atriumintegrator7604SP1.client_server.win / > atriumintegrator7604.server.win (6/4/2011 20:56 - 21:30) > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Jason > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:38 AM, patrick zandi <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ** ok, it finished: I ran it over night// had several warnings.. but no >> failures.. >> off to the logs.. total time :: 7.5 hours >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> My installs are failing after only 70 or 80 minutes. I cleaned up the >>> first defect and it has now failed on another. Apparently SP2 depends on >>> things that failed to happen properly during my 7.6.03 upgrades from earlier >>> versions, so it is unable to complete. Nothing here to instill confidence >>> for planning a rapid move to SP2 in the production environment.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. >>> Call Tracking Administration Manager >>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center >>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ **** >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:56 PM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** OK back at it again::: According to Support::: >>> >>> so now I am asking again::: >>> ENV: 64 cpu's 32 gig of ram >>> >>> How many hours is the task update suppose to take? 6 - 8 - 12 - 24 hours? >>> Cause were over 5 already.. >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Patrick Zandi <[email protected]> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> So they broke it twice ! Lol**** >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone so typo's or funky words can and do happen!**** >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:**** >>> >>> ** **** >>> >>> BMC Support indicates that there is a known defect with a view ID that >>> basically prevents the ITSM SP2 installer from completing successfully. It >>> looks like it will affect all of my available environments.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. >>> Call Tracking Administration Manager >>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center >>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ **** >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *strauss >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:43 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** **** >>> >>> The rik.err error was:**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Definition File (D:\Program Files (x86)\BMC >>> Software\BMCRemedyITSMSuite\ITSMT01\Workflow\install\7.6.04_sp2_overlay_install\systems\fnd\workflow\en\.\fnd_deplapp.def) >>> import failed with error code (392) :- (Field/VUI name must be unique for >>> the form -- there is already a field or VUI using this name)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Since there are almost 300 forms in that def file, I’m going to let BMC >>> figured out what they did wrong. The only form I overlaid on the server is >>> HPD:Help Desk (one field, Reported Source was given Other as a Default >>> value) and one of the 7.6.04 upgrades added an overlay for >>> HPD:HelpDesk_AuditLogSystem, and neither of those is in the problematic def >>> file.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. >>> Call Tracking Administration Manager >>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center >>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ **** >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *strauss >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:19 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** **** >>> >>> Oh, I doubt that (that there is any hope for me)… my downloads are from >>> last week. The Atrium SP2 applied clean on the second try, but the ITSM SP2 >>> just completed with a failure. So far the SP2 installers are NOT looking >>> good at all.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. >>> Call Tracking Administration Manager >>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center >>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ **** >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:11 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** you will not believe it:: LIKE THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED:::: >>> >>> Files uploaded to the download site are BAD::: they just replaced them >>> with the correct files yesterday?!? I guess.. >>> Go Figure.. >>> >>> So I have re reinstall everything Again.. Wonderful.. So there is hope >>> for ya Chris!!! >>> LOL........**** >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Grooms, Frederick W < >>> [email protected]> wrote:**** >>> >>> ** **** >>> >>> Do you have an SQL log?? It looks like it is updating 1 record at a time >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Fred**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:57 AM**** >>> >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** **** >>> >>> OK, 3 hours of this::: NOW WHAT>>>????**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.112 PM >>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement, >>> **** >>> >>> LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[550]}**** >>> >>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.113 PM >>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement, >>> **** >>> >>> LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[551]}**** >>> >>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.113 PM >>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement, >>> **** >>> >>> LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[552]}**** >>> >>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.114 PM >>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement, >>> **** >>> >>> LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[8303]}**** >>> >>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.115 PM >>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement, >>> **** >>> >>> LOG EVENT {Description=[RIK load application >>> command],Detail=[/var/tmp/Utilities/rik/rik loadapp -f >>> /u01/app/ITSM/Workflow/install/7.6.04_sp2_overlay_install/systems/fnd/workflow/en/adf_fnd.xml >>> -m nosamp -x HOSTNAME -t 2106 -u Demo -p ** -l /u01/app/ITSM -n >>> InstallRAF7604 -L]}**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:12 PM, patrick zandi <[email protected]> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> OK, Atrium core sp2 was not a problem, but I was doing oob install too. >>> the bmc itsm overlay install is running now, for over 2 hours... I am >>> getting a little concerned.. it appears stuck on task progress, executing.. >>> I do not see anything in the /var/tmp files .. I must be missing >>> something.. >>> but we shall see..**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:**** >>> >>> ** **** >>> >>> Sounds like you had better luck than I. I started running the SP2 >>> installs on my sample data environment which has been stable on some >>> lightweight 2008 R2 VMs since 7.5, and was upgraded to 7.6, 7.6.03, 7.6.04, >>> and SP1 without incident. The SP2 ARS installer ran just fine – updated ALL >>> components. The Atrium installer exploded in a shower of sparks and left >>> the system as toast; apparently it tried unsuccessfully to restart the AR >>> Service during the install, and stopped the service but not the process – >>> which remained connected to the SQL Server, and proceeded to spew some of >>> the coolest error messages I have seen in a while; here is a selection for >>> your entertainment:**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:26 2011 390600 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:26 2011 ITSMT01 (9556) BMC.FILTERAPI.NOE : RPC: >>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011 : Action Request System(R) Server x64 Version >>> 7.6.04 SP2 201110080614**** >>> >>> (c) Copyright 1991-2011 BMC Software, Inc. **** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011 ProcessMain : Another copy of the server is >>> already running on the same RPC socket (ARERR 35)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011 d:*program files (x86)*bmc >>> software*arsystem*confRemedyMutex390600**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011: AR System server terminated — fatal error >>> occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE 21)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:22 2011 390602 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:22 2011 ITSMT01 (9999) RMDY.ITSM.RKM.FILESYSTEM : >>> RPC: Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:23 2011 390602 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:26 2011 ITSMT01 (22701) >>> REMEDY.ARDBC.SERVER.ADMINISTRATION : RPC: Miscellaneous tli error - System >>> error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:19 2011 390600 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:19 2011 ITSMT01 (22701) : RPC: Miscellaneous tli >>> error - System error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:20 2011 390600 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:20 2011 itsmt01.unt.edu (9999) ARSYS.ARF.REGISTRY : >>> RPC: Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:21 2011 390600 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:21 2011 ITSMT01 (9556) BMC.FILTERAPI.NOE : RPC: >>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:22 2011 390600 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:22 2011 ITSMT01 (9999) RMDY.ITSM.RLE : RPC: >>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:23 2011 390600 : Cannot establish a network connection >>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:23 2011 itsmt01.unt.edu (9998) ARSYS.ARF.FTS : RPC: >>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:06 2011 : Action Request System(R) Server x64 Version >>> 7.6.04 SP2 201110080614**** >>> >>> (c) Copyright 1991-2011 BMC Software, Inc. **** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:07 2011 ProcessMain : Another copy of the server is >>> already running on the same RPC socket (ARERR 35)**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:07 2011 d:*program files (x86)*bmc >>> software*arsystem*confRemedyMutex390600**** >>> >>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:07 2011: AR System server terminated — fatal error >>> occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE 21)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> So far I am not impressed. Also, the problem with logging in that I have >>> been fighting in Migrator 7.6.04 – all versions since 7.6.03 – was not fixed >>> in SP2, so that was no improvement.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. >>> Call Tracking Administration Manager >>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center >>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ **** >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:14 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** This was an upgrade from 7.6.04 SP1 -- forgot to mention.**** >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:05 AM, patrick zandi <[email protected]> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> OK folks, >>> ARS 7.6.04 SP2 (released Oct 11) - Oracle 11.iR2 >>> Solaris 10 I installed, and the installer was pretty intelligent, and I >>> had 1 minor weird issue, and the fix was odd. Where the page is that asked >>> for the aradmin and password (put in the password). mine was default for >>> aradmin however it did not like it when I got to the page that asked for the >>> system password it says the aradmin password was wrong (you would think that >>> was already done).. so if you go back 4 - 5 steps and put in the aradmin and >>> password, then as you move forward : bang it knows the rest and does it >>> (fairly intelligent). Strange but it went through the install without a >>> hitch.. >>> I have not see anything like this in a while.. have not tested fully.. >>> but wanted you all to know.. we are making progress... >>> >>> Thanks BMC >>> >>> -- >>> Patrick Zandi**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Patrick Zandi >>> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >>> >>> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >>> >>> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >>> >>> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Patrick Zandi >>> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >>> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Patrick Zandi >> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ >> > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > -- Patrick Zandi _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"

