Yeah::: Upgrades look like they are going to disappear for the create a new
server and migrate data option soon.

Most change windows: especially Enterprise wise:: could they really go down
for 5-7 hours? NO! not happening..
so My guess is there is some sort of single FIFO job process single Java
thread into the server needs to be change to something a little more robust.
don't know what the answer is.. but I can see this as an issue...

I have 64 CPU's and it took forever.. cpu never went over 6%... had tons of
ram too...
not sure what the answer is ? BMC Engineering might have a better clue...

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Jason Miller <[email protected]>wrote:

> ** Congratulations!
>
> Could somebody from BMC explain what is happening during this time where
> nothing appears to be happening?  I remember having the same experience
> during the 7.5 to 7.6.04 SP1 upgrade.  The logs do not indicate that
> anything is happening and a db trace shows very little activity.  You just
> have to hold your breath, have faith and hope for the best.
>
> Below is a snippet of our production upgrade notes the times of each
> install.  Fortunately I was able to take the system down for two days
> because we only had three people using this new system for production data
> (contracts).  We finished just a hair past our 9 AM time to return to
> production (I got lucky).
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Run ARSystem_7604SP1_Windows (5/25/2011  14:02 - 16:00)
>     • A handful of errors:
>         § arerror.log
>             § Wed May 25 15:01:05 2011  390600 : Could not find or read the
> tags file. (ARNOTE 452)
>             § Wed May 25 15:01:05 2011     C:\Program Files\Common Files\AR
> System\Licenses\<servername>\arsystem.tag
>             § Wed May 25 15:02:03 2011  390600 : The value(s) for this
> entry violate a unique index that has been defined for this form (ARERR 382)
>             § Wed May 25 15:02:02 2011  390600 : Creation of an application
> form failed. (ARERR 4550)
>         § An error regarding the email engine.
> Run atrium7604SP1.win (5/25/2011  23:17 - 5/26/2011 13:21)
>     • RIK hung at 00:23, acknowledged and process started again at 08:03
>     • Finished without further error
>     • The issues in test with Active Link guides after Atrium Core did not
> happen in production
>     • Create Windows symbolic link to account for AIE directory change
>         § mklink /J "D:\Program Files (x86)\BMC
> Software\AtriumCore\aie\service" "D:\Program Files (x86)\BMC
> Software\AtriumCore\aie\service64"
> Run BMCRemedyITSMSuite7604SP1.windows (5/26/2011  14:00 - 5/27/2011 07:33)
> Run ServiceLevelManagement7.6.04.SP1.windows  (5/27/2011  08:07 - 09:02)
> Run BmcRkm7604SP1.windows  (5/29/2001 23:30 - 5/30/2011 02:04)
> Run atriumintegrator7604SP1.client_server.win /
> atriumintegrator7604.server.win (6/4/2011 20:56 - 21:30)
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Jason
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:38 AM, patrick zandi <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> ** ok, it finished: I ran it over night// had several warnings.. but no
>> failures..
>> off to the logs..  total time :: 7.5 hours
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> My installs are failing after only 70 or 80 minutes.  I cleaned up the
>>> first defect and it has now failed on another.  Apparently SP2 depends on
>>> things that failed to happen properly during my 7.6.03 upgrades from earlier
>>> versions, so it is unable to complete.  Nothing here to instill confidence
>>> for planning a rapid move to SP2 in the production environment.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
>>> Call Tracking Administration Manager
>>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
>>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:56 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** OK back at it again::: According to Support:::
>>>
>>> so now I am asking again:::
>>> ENV: 64 cpu's  32 gig of ram
>>>
>>> How many hours is the task update suppose to take? 6 - 8 - 12 - 24 hours?
>>> Cause were over 5 already..
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Patrick Zandi <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:****
>>>
>>> So they broke it twice ! Lol****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone so typo's or funky words can and do happen!****
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:****
>>>
>>> ** ****
>>>
>>> BMC Support indicates that there is a known defect with a view ID that
>>> basically prevents the ITSM SP2 installer from completing successfully.  It
>>> looks like it will affect all of my available environments.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
>>> Call Tracking Administration Manager
>>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
>>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *strauss
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:43 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> ** ****
>>>
>>> The rik.err error was:****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Definition File (D:\Program Files (x86)\BMC
>>> Software\BMCRemedyITSMSuite\ITSMT01\Workflow\install\7.6.04_sp2_overlay_install\systems\fnd\workflow\en\.\fnd_deplapp.def)
>>> import failed with error code (392) :- (Field/VUI name must be unique for
>>> the form -- there is already a field or VUI using this name)****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Since there are almost 300 forms in that def file, I’m going to let BMC
>>> figured out what they did wrong.  The only form I overlaid on the server is
>>> HPD:Help Desk (one field, Reported Source was given Other as a Default
>>> value) and one of the 7.6.04 upgrades added an overlay for
>>> HPD:HelpDesk_AuditLogSystem, and neither of those is in the problematic def
>>> file.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
>>> Call Tracking Administration Manager
>>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
>>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *strauss
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:19 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> ** ****
>>>
>>> Oh, I doubt that (that there is any hope for me)… my downloads are from
>>> last week.  The Atrium SP2 applied clean on the second try, but the ITSM SP2
>>> just completed with a failure.  So far the SP2 installers are NOT looking
>>> good at all.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
>>> Call Tracking Administration Manager
>>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
>>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:11 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> ** you will not believe it:: LIKE THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED::::
>>>
>>> Files uploaded to the download site are BAD::: they just replaced them
>>> with the correct files yesterday?!? I guess..
>>> Go Figure..
>>>
>>> So I have re reinstall everything Again.. Wonderful.. So there is hope
>>> for ya Chris!!!
>>> LOL........****
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Grooms, Frederick W <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:****
>>>
>>> ** ****
>>>
>>> Do you have an SQL log??  It looks like it is updating 1 record at a time
>>> ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Fred****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:57 AM****
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> ** ****
>>>
>>> OK, 3 hours of this:::  NOW WHAT>>>????****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.112 PM
>>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement,
>>> ****
>>>
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[550]}****
>>>
>>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.113 PM
>>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement,
>>> ****
>>>
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[551]}****
>>>
>>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.113 PM
>>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement,
>>> ****
>>>
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[552]}****
>>>
>>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.114 PM
>>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement,
>>> ****
>>>
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Code],Detail=[8303]}****
>>>
>>> (Oct 18 2011 03:54:07.115 PM
>>> +0000),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.rik.statement.RIKLoadApplicationStatement,
>>> ****
>>>
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[RIK load application
>>> command],Detail=[/var/tmp/Utilities/rik/rik loadapp -f
>>> /u01/app/ITSM/Workflow/install/7.6.04_sp2_overlay_install/systems/fnd/workflow/en/adf_fnd.xml
>>> -m nosamp -x HOSTNAME -t 2106 -u Demo -p ** -l /u01/app/ITSM -n
>>> InstallRAF7604 -L]}****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:12 PM, patrick zandi <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:****
>>>
>>> OK, Atrium core sp2 was not a problem, but I was doing oob install too.
>>> the bmc itsm overlay install is running now, for over 2 hours... I am
>>> getting a little concerned.. it appears stuck on task progress, executing..
>>> I do not see anything in the /var/tmp files .. I must be missing
>>> something..
>>> but we shall see..****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:****
>>>
>>> ** ****
>>>
>>> Sounds like you had better luck than I.  I started running the SP2
>>> installs on my sample data environment which has been stable on some
>>> lightweight 2008 R2 VMs since 7.5, and was upgraded to 7.6, 7.6.03, 7.6.04,
>>> and SP1 without incident.  The SP2 ARS installer ran just fine – updated ALL
>>> components.  The Atrium installer exploded in a shower of sparks and left
>>> the system as toast; apparently it tried unsuccessfully to restart the AR
>>> Service during the install, and stopped the service but not the process –
>>> which remained connected to the SQL Server, and proceeded to spew some of
>>> the coolest error messages I have seen in a while; here is a selection for
>>> your entertainment:****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:26 2011  390600 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:26 2011     ITSMT01 (9556) BMC.FILTERAPI.NOE : RPC:
>>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011 : Action Request System(R) Server x64 Version
>>> 7.6.04 SP2 201110080614****
>>>
>>> (c) Copyright 1991-2011 BMC Software, Inc. ****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011  ProcessMain : Another copy of the server is
>>> already running on the same RPC socket (ARERR 35)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011     d:*program files (x86)*bmc
>>> software*arsystem*confRemedyMutex390600****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 15:15:45 2011: AR System server terminated — fatal error
>>> occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE  21)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:22 2011  390602 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:22 2011     ITSMT01 (9999) RMDY.ITSM.RKM.FILESYSTEM :
>>> RPC: Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:23 2011  390602 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:04:26 2011     ITSMT01 (22701)
>>> REMEDY.ARDBC.SERVER.ADMINISTRATION : RPC: Miscellaneous tli error - System
>>> error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:19 2011  390600 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:19 2011     ITSMT01 (22701)  : RPC: Miscellaneous tli
>>> error - System error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:20 2011  390600 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:20 2011     itsmt01.unt.edu (9999) ARSYS.ARF.REGISTRY :
>>> RPC: Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:21 2011  390600 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:21 2011     ITSMT01 (9556) BMC.FILTERAPI.NOE : RPC:
>>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:22 2011  390600 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:22 2011     ITSMT01 (9999) RMDY.ITSM.RLE : RPC:
>>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:23 2011  390600 : Cannot establish a network connection
>>> to the AR System Plug-In server (ARERR 8760)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:06:23 2011     itsmt01.unt.edu (9998) ARSYS.ARF.FTS : RPC:
>>> Miscellaneous tli error - System error (Connection refused)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:06 2011 : Action Request System(R) Server x64 Version
>>> 7.6.04 SP2 201110080614****
>>>
>>> (c) Copyright 1991-2011 BMC Software, Inc. ****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:07 2011  ProcessMain : Another copy of the server is
>>> already running on the same RPC socket (ARERR 35)****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:07 2011     d:*program files (x86)*bmc
>>> software*arsystem*confRemedyMutex390600****
>>>
>>> Mon Oct 17 16:18:07 2011: AR System server terminated — fatal error
>>> occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE  21)****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> So far I am not impressed.  Also, the problem with logging in that I have
>>> been fighting in Migrator 7.6.04 – all versions since 7.6.03 – was not fixed
>>> in SP2, so that was no improvement.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
>>> Call Tracking Administration Manager
>>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
>>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:14 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.6.04 SP2 Solaris installer Oracle db.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> ** This was an upgrade from 7.6.04 SP1 -- forgot to mention.****
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:05 AM, patrick zandi <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:****
>>>
>>> OK folks,
>>> ARS 7.6.04 SP2 (released Oct 11) - Oracle 11.iR2
>>> Solaris 10  I installed, and the installer was pretty intelligent, and I
>>> had 1 minor weird issue, and the fix was odd. Where the page is that asked
>>> for the aradmin and password (put in the password). mine was default for
>>> aradmin however it did not like it when I got to the page that asked for the
>>> system password it says the aradmin password was wrong (you would think that
>>> was already done).. so if you go back 4 - 5 steps and put in the aradmin and
>>> password, then as you move forward : bang it knows the rest and does it
>>> (fairly intelligent). Strange but it went through the install without a
>>> hitch..
>>> I have not see anything like this in a while..  have not tested fully..
>>> but wanted you all to know.. we are making progress...
>>>
>>> Thanks BMC
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patrick Zandi****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
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>>
>>
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