I have to disagree...  The fact that everything is stored in the database is 
one of the biggest advantages to the Action Request System.  I don't know why I 
would want to go from my 4GL system back to 3GL scripting.  I have yet to find 
anything worthwhile that is impossible to implement in AR System.  I can create 
specialized tracking systems for my company in less time and with less problems 
than someone in a 3GL setup.

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Baker
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 2:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Overlay and Applications

Jose,

I'm pleased you agree and don't. 

Let me tackle the don't: I'm not suggesting there shouldn't be a user 
interface/admin tool, and there is no reason why that can't remain. However, 
the current approach of trying to put workflow into a database isn't working 
because functionality that was available in the 1970s (according to the Wiki 
page, but 1990 is a more reasonble guess) proves difficult/impossible to 
implement in AR System.

Storing as a script will allow merges in seconds, side by side easy to read 
diff between two sets of workflow, multiple branches and branches on branches, 
access over ssh, a pretty web interface and integration to bug tracking systems 
(JIRA), test driven development - the list goes on. All of which is available 
for free or with little effort if workflow is stored as scripts, not stored 
into a database table.

The problem with the current model touches so many areas of AR System: When Mid 
Tier isn't required to store workflow in a memory cache and can simply point 
the browser at scripts, the "pre-cache" functionality will largely disappear 
and the product will become vastly less memory hungry and much quicker.

Perhaps I should ask, can anyone think of a disadvantage with taking workflow 
from the schema and into scripts?


John

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