Guillaume I do take onboard your points but I have to disagree: AR System provides no version control. If you believe it does, please tell me how I revert a form to its state at any point in time since AR System was installed, and no, taking hourly backups of my database isn't a useful step forward.
I don't feel the 4/5/6GL discussion is relevant to my post (and it's not something I really recognise now-a-days). I'm talking about how to improve the platform, not the way in which it's used. And many problems in IT are not simply solved by some sticky tape, or a new cache, but a serious change in thinking. That's evident in MId Tier 6.3, and if the concept was pushed back to the AR System server level, the entire platform would benefit. I appreciate change is never easy, but as other posters have pointed out, there's a lot of attraction to having an easy to use platform that can also happily compete with other platforms. I've self-taught myself to write in a number of languages (yet I speak just one), and I don't see why AR System developers should be placed into a box and told they can only use the admin tool with limited functionality, no version control or useful development tools, or find a Java compiler and use another product. There's a lot of middle ground between those two poles. John _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"

