Thanks for the responses.  There are various reasons why mgmt doesn't want
to handle this in-house, although I am fairly certain that's what we'll end
up doing (along the lines of what Ken suggested).  I need to present the
options, though, so thanks David for the Mailgun recommendation, and to
Steve for the caveats.

Joe


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Steve Kallestad <[email protected]> wrote:

> ** I've been down that rabbit hole and the potential problems are an
> enormous headache.
>
> The problem with using a commercial service to handle your mailing list is
> that you're very dependent on not only their infrastructure, but their
> reputation as well.
>
> All it takes is one of their *other* customers to end up on a spammer list
> for your messages to have problems with delivery.  Not to mention your own
> messaging setup could trigger auto-flagging of that company as a spammer.
>
> If you can avoid it, you're better off handling things internally with
> whatever infrastructure you have in place.  Otherwise you run the danger of
> learning way more about email delivery than anybody should ever really know.
>
> If you have to go external, choose a service that will leverage your own
> companies hostnames for delivery.  (autonotifications.yourcompany.comrather 
> than
> mail.biglistprovider.com) so that when you do end up having users with
> flagged messages you can whitelist without having to whitelist a plethora
> of other companies at the same time.
>
> And if you do that, you want to make sure you use
> SPF/DomainKeys/DKIM/SenderID again to ensure that your whitelisting is
> valid.
>
> It really is a simple thing that you want.  Unfortunately, spammers have
> really mucked things up for the rest of us.
>
> Sorry - I don't have a recommended provider.  I just had to throw my 2
> cents in.
>
> Steve
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Joe Castleman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> **
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I flagged this as off-topic since it really isn't a Remedy question per
>> se, though it does involve a Remedy system.
>>
>> We need to send different kinds of notifications from ARS to various
>> distribution lists.  We would rather not build up these lists within ARS
>> (mainly because many of the recipients don't have Remedy access; also so I
>> won't have to be the one maintaining the distribution groups; and finally
>> so ARS would only have to send one message to 1-5 recipients instead of
>> 487).  So we were thinking about setting up a separate server running
>> Mailman, Listserv or similar, and maintain the distribution lists on that
>> platform.
>>
>> However, management said, "why worry ourselves with more infrastructure?"
>> and suggested looking into a commercial distribution service.  For example,
>> when Pottery Barn/Gap/whatever sends out a weekly marketing email, at the
>> end of the email it says "Powered by MegaSpammer" or some such.  Trouble
>> is, these seem tailored to sending out feature-laden emails (as opposed to
>> the plain text we need to send out), and to one particular distribution
>> list.
>>
>> So, I'm back to looking for something like Mailman or Listserv, but
>> paying someone else to take care of it (all we'd have to do is configure
>> our mailing lists and send our messages).  Can anyone recommend something
>> like this?  (Alternately we're thinking of getting a virtual server on the
>> cloud somewhere like AWS, then installing Mailman on it, but then we'd
>> still be on the hook for maintaining Mailman, and management prefers that
>> we wouldn't even have to do that.)
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised if I've overlooked something really obvious, but
>> so far all I'm finding are the "Powered by SpamRockets" with the fancy HTML
>> templates etc.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>> I'm Joe Castleman
>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
>>
>
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