They are also supposedly looking to buy Compuware. Since Bain has a history of also buying companies, starving them of cash and selling off their remains, I think the areas of concern from a BMC employee perspective should be the areas that overlap with Compuware at this point, which doesn't include Remedy. It would make sense for them to sell off Remedy and other product lines whether BMC survives or not. The Remedy business still is strong enough that it's likely that anyone who buys it would be interested in actually using it to make money rather than shutting it down. If they end buying it, I can see Oracle expanding Remedy's market share if they try to bundle some portion of it in with their eBusiness suite or Peoplesoft or something.
In any case, I'm not a fan of Bain - not because of politics, but because my kids can't enjoy going to K.B. Toys like I used to when I was a kid, and Toys R' Us appears to be on the verge of bankruptcy as well. I haven't looked into it but I wouldn't be surprised if others that you listed are in financial trouble now as well. Maybe it will work out ok for Remedy, but I will be surprised if BMC is as stable (or even around) in five years as it was before now. Thanks, Shawn Pierson Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Kallestad Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 2:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? ** > BTW - the MN Vikings still are without a Superbowl in 2021 :( That's just mean spirited. ======= We've all been through this before. Some things will happen that we don't like beyond our control, but in the end the technology we all use and the industry we're all a part of will be just fine. You never know, this could be a very good thing that expands market share and increases the size of our community. Bain is Guitar Center, Gymboree, Staples, Clear Channel, Dominoes Pizza, Dunkin' Donuts, Toys R Us, and Sports Authority. Those are all pretty much household names. It's not such a bad thing to have the Action Request System on the same list. --Steve On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, John Sundberg <john.sundb...@kineticdata.com<mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>> wrote: ** On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM, John Sundberg <john.sundb...@kineticdata.com<mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>> wrote: ** It is a little hard to say what "version" it was.... Because in 2012 -- BMC renamed it all to BMC Atrium ... threw in the kitchen sink -- which included the Remedy product and the ITSM Suite + some discovery software + a CMDB... But in 2014 Oracle broke it all up -- and peeled off the ITSM software into something they called "Oracle Service Support" .... (And the concept of a development admin tool went away) -- it is purely configuration and consulting to configure the product... (Traditional Remedy customer are unhappy - new customers don't know better - think they are eating a juicy steak - turns out it is pink slime) RemedyForce was taken over by Business.com (aka Salesforce.com). RemedyOnDemand - still exists -- but is part of "Oracle Scalable Enterprise" - which everybody calls "Oh say ... can you see" -- because nobody can actually see it working... kind of a weird industry joke... (Still not sure about it -- I think 2021 humor goes over my head) Same timeframe -- Oracle renamed Remedy to "Oracle Enable" ... and it became really the "adhoc" business "back-office" apps generator.... SRM was abandoned by Oracle -- really BMC killed it before Oracle got it (circa 2011) - BMC just never told the customers. Of course Kinetic Data stayed independent and front-ends both Oracle Service Support and the Enable framework - keeping customers happy - regardless of the shenanigans behind the scenes... BTW - the MN Vikings still are without a Superbowl in 2021 :( Obama gets reelected. Republican gets elected 2016 -- does a fair job - but chooses not to rerun. Hillary gets 2020. And that is all I know... -John On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Howard Richter <hbr4...@gmail.com<mailto:hbr4...@gmail.com>> wrote: ** Yep and that is what Bain will sell first to pay for this deal. Maybe they will sell Remedy to Oracle and then BMC will license it back for ITSM. Hbr Sent from my iPhone 5 On May 6, 2013, at 1:43 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com<mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote: ** Humm isn't mainframe the most profitable part of BMC? On 06 May, 2013,at 07:33 PM, patchsk <vamsi...@gmail.com<mailto:vamsi...@gmail.com>> wrote: ** We can never know how the forces end up playing the cards. After all the links between ServiceNow and Remedy/BMC are not very distant. ServiceNow is a software-as-a-service<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_as_a_service> (SaaS) provider of IT service management<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IT_service_management> (ITSM) software. It was founded in 2003 by Fred Luddy<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fred_Luddy&action=edit&redlink=1>, the previous CTO of Peregrine Systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems> and Remedy Corporation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remedy_Corporation>. The M in BMC John Jay Moores -- He founded BMC Software<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMC_Software> in Texas<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas> in 1980 and was the lead venture capital financier for Peregrine Systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems> in California starting in 1981 as well as ServiceNow<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServiceNow> another California corporation founded in 2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moores_(baseball) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServiceNow On Monday, May 6, 2013 9:46:58 AM UTC-7, arslist wrote: ** Peregrine bought the company, I guess they don't exist anymore so I can't be sued, to destroy it. It was competition they wanted eliminated, IMHO based on their actions and the words at the Peregrine Synergy conference I attended in 2002. Whilst this current buyout looks less sinister in those terms, we of course need to wait to see how it all plays out. There is some talk that it will split off the mainframe from the rest, but I haven't heard any rumours about what they want to do with both pieces. I think the Remedy brand and the ITSM product are too valuable for anyone to want to eliminate them, other than Service-Now, and I don't think they have the financial resources to buy it. WWRUG13 is getting more and more interesting :) [Oracle World is the Week before, lol]. Daniel From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ars...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of William Rentfrow Sent: May 6, 2013 10:10 AM To: ars...@arslist.org Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? ** I have $1 on this being "Peregrine 2.0". From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:37 AM To: ars...@arslist.org Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? ** I just hope some guys I know at BMC will be ok after the buyout... This could good or this could be a disaster... On 06 May, 2013,at 03:32 PM, Sylvain YVON <sylvai...@gmail.com> wrote: ** https://communities.bmc.com/people/mstouse/blog/2013/05/06/bmc-software-writes-a-new-line-of-code-today?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, patrick zandi <reme...@gmail.com> wrote: ** http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/bmc_buyout/ Buyout soon... -- Patrick Zandi _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ________________________________ No virus found in this message. 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