Great point!  I think BMC just got (or will later this year) the upper hand
vs.SNOW.  BMC *can* now be more flexible while SNOW is now slave to the
money.


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Lee Cullom <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure.  However, I
> would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition
> because neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales
> force.  Pricing would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap
> would be cloudy and buried under products with much larger markets.  ITSM
> is only a $1.5 billion dollar market, so R&D dollars would go to the larger
> markets like CRM ($15 Billion).  Also, there would be no hope of Remedy
> becoming a PaaS as it should.  With some architectural changes, Remedy
> could be the most powerful PaaS on the planet, so I see BMC as the last
> hope of that happening.  Imagine if this community could become part of an
> AppExchange.
>
> Still - to your point, Remedy will survive.  In fact, Remedy will survive
> no matter what happens, but I just harken back to those days when it was
> thriving... as a separate BU under Dick Stark at BMC (30+% Revenue Growth
> at that time)... or when Remedy was its own company.
>
> The product is still the best.  ServiceNow's biggest win was in hiring all
> of the ex-Remedy sales people and solution consultants (impact of a
> specialty sales force).  That's how they're winning... not to mention their
> vastly superior support team.  Listen to a support call with a ServiceNow
> customer vs. BMC Support.  I've heard them both multiple times since we
> have customers on both product lines.  BMC = Send me your logs, send me
> your logs, send me your logs.  Vs. SNOW = A 2nd or 3rd tier quality person
> on the front-line.
>
> However, given enough time and money, ServiceNow could make their product
> better.  On the flip side, they're a public company now, so watch how their
> model changes from what I just described.  In fact, customers tell me that
> they already charge for approvers and end users now... the cycle continues.
>
>
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> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:42 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative
> thing in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be
> swallowed up inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken
> Oracle to combine the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products
> directly competing?)  I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes
> up, or some other unknown odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be
> an opportunity for Remedy to be implemented in shops that may not have a
> good ITSM solution but already have installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever
> hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a pessimistic scenario it doesn't
> seem too bad to me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Pierson
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:
>
> - Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units
> - Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
> - They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone
> who can use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be
> involved)
> - They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the
> newly private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.
>
> So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since
> it will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
> Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are
> coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management
> technology to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the
> Tivoli product line.
> Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the
> financials yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the
> Enterprise, that's Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require
> investment and innovation (this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)...
> and an AppExchange like community (this group) to develop new offerings
> that are needed to compete with ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center,
> Facilities Management, etc...).  This will require some heavy ARsystem work
> as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for the cloud.
>
> Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS
> capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price
> point.
>
> The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to
> become another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle
> EBS).
>
> However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some
> point with new ownership.
>
> Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic!
>
>
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> Depends on your definition of "successful" Bain makes money for stock
> holders ... yes successful company??? well....
>
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