I’ve got to second Ben here.  This project is not for the faint-hearted, but 
his meta-update product does make data migration possible.  I really don’t 
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this, but have a look at meta-update.  Transactional data is a very tangled 
web.  My reporting product will show you how crazy the situation it is, but we 
can’t fix it.

In fact, I’ll add that 80% of companies that have left BMC Remedy to move to 
ServiceNow did so because of upgrade costs OR pre-ITSM 7.6.4 usability.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Upgrade from v5.1.2 to v8.1

**
The upgrade from HPD 5.1.2 to ITSM 7+ is difficult but we have done it and have 
Meta-Update scripts available to do this.    Meta-Update can also be used to 
migrate the limited asset data available on 5 to the CMDB.

These Meta-Update scripts will convert tickets as needed, ensuring attachments 
are moved to the appropriate work logs, the notes field are moved to multiple 
work log entries, etc.  People can also be migrated with some rules in place to 
allow for the different permissions model.

I would expect that the easiest way would be to put up a new server with a new 
db and then migrate the data from 5 to 8.

Should you wish to clean this data or reorganize categorizations this is 
possible during the migration.

Please contact me off-list if interested in pursuing this option further.

Cheers

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Raj
Sent: June-27-13 16:42
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Upgrade from v5.1.2 to v8.1

** Hello All,
We are trying to perform an upgrade of our Remedy Instance on v5.01.01 to v8.1.
So far we have upgraded ARS from v5.1.2 > v6.3 > v7.1 > v7.6.04.(Solaris) on 
Dev Environment as a proof of concept.
We are targeting to Upgrade to v8.1 and also to move to Linux(VMware ESX). To 
accomplish this here's what we are trying to do:
1. Upgrade ARS to v7.6.04(Solaris), take DB(10g) copy
2. Install a fresh ARS of v7.6.04(Linux) + DB(10g)
3. Drop DB of Step 2 + Attach DB copy from Step 1(so we will have a ARS v7.6.04 
with Linux on 10g DB)
4. Upgrade DB to 11g
4. Run upgrade install from ARS v7.6.04 to v8.1

Based on the above approach/ steps I have few questions:
1. Is the above approach feasible?, as the aim for our upgrade is to bring our 
Remedy instance to a supported version.
    ARS upgrade from v5.1.2 to v8.1. Also, we would like to move away from 
Unix/Solaris platform to Linux VM platform.
2. We also have ITSM 5.6/Remedy HelpDesk v5.1.2 - How do we handle this? As for 
now, we are only thinking of upgrading ARS not ITSM.
3. Also, my understanding is v7.5 onwards, there has been drastic changes. Any 
caveats of losing our customizations(Customization on HPD as well as Custom 
applications we have in place)? How do we handle these?
4. Dev Server - As a proof of concept on our Dev Server, we upgraded ARS from 
v5.1.2 to v7.6.04 so far. Working on to upgrade to v8.1 now.
5. DB from non-unicode to unicode - Our Dev DB was already Unicode. Whereas our 
Prod DB is non -unicode, so at what point do we have to convert from 
non-unicode to Unicode(before running v6.3 Upgrade install)?

Source - ARS v5.1.2 + ITSM v5.6(HelpDesk v5.1.2) + Custom/Home grown apps.
Destination/Target - ARS v8.1 + ITSM v5.6(HelpDesk v5.1.2) if supported or ITSM 
v8,1(Service Desk) + Custom/Home grown apps.

Environment Information:
Current Production:
Environment Info:
AR Server Version : 5.01.02 Patch 1313
Hardware : sun4u
Operating System : SunOS 5.10
DB : SQL -- Oracle
DB Version : 10.2.0.5.0 - 64bi

Current Development (where we are running ARS Upgrade Installs):
Environment Info:
AR Server Version : 7.6.04 SP4 201209051922
Hardware : sun4u
Operating System : SunOS 5.10
DB : SQL -- Oracle
DB Version : 10.2.0.5.0 - 64bi

Does the above approach feasible? I would highly appreciate any help(practical 
lessons, gotchas, caveats, etc) you can provide.

Regards,
Raj _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
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