True....but the rate you get paid daily isn't the same as requiring relocation assistance to take the job...that can be negotiated with the hiring company :)
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian Goralczyk <[email protected]>wrote: > ** > I think the issue that people are bringing up when saying the rates are > low is that basically you are limiting yourself to people in the area. > Anyone outside the area that might have to travel can't afford to for that > rate unless someone else is picking up the tab. > > Even if you consider moving for the job, the rate is to low to cover > moving expenses in most peoples eyes. > > But like everyone else, this is my view. > > Brian Goralczyk > > Brian Goralczyk > Phone 574-643-1144 > Email [email protected] > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Longwing, Lj <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> I think the 'rate' discussion is more complicated than all of that. I >> have been a Remedy developer in my area for 15+ years....I know my value, >> and am certainly nowhere NEAR a 'Junior' developer. I know the cost of >> living ranges in Colorado Springs and I can honestly say that I have worked >> for the rate discussed in this posting. >> >> If I lived say...in DC, where many of the 'government' jobs come out >> of...no, this rate would be an insult and wouldn't provide a sufficient >> income to live comfortably.....but in a country where the poverty line sits >> somewhere around $20K/year, I can't say a job paying 5 times that is a >> 'bad' job by any means. >> >> It's true that Colorado Springs is not Virginia/DC/New York/Washington, >> as far as markets are concerned....but the rates that are typically >> discussed on the list are, as you said 'contract' rates...and the rate >> being discussed in this posting is an employee rate. >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Ars Lister <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> The truth is, for a regular salaried employee, the salary is OK and the >>> rates translate into salary. Contractors typically do not get holidays, >>> sick days, vacation days, or personal days. If it's a W-2 contract rate, >>> they MAY get access to the medical aspect of the benefit plans but are >>> typically not invited into the 401K aspect. Ergo, translating salaries >>> into rates are improper and non-competitive. >>> >>> As for stability, I and several of my associates have had 1-2 year >>> engagements at more than double those rates at numerous companies and >>> governmental agencies. Stability does not define the value of the skillset >>> on the market. If you're able to leverage people who do not know their >>> value on the market-- kudos. If your cost of living is lower than other >>> markets, then yes, a reduction of $10-20 on the rate may still be >>> competitive. But over half? Then like someone said earlier, you must be >>> looking for a junior person. >>> >>> PS: Remedy Administrator used to mean Remedy Developer but in this day >>> and age, it usually means someone who is configuring the applications with >>> data. The advertised rates are appropriate for Remedy Admins with that >>> detail as that is a science in itself, but no where close to what it takes >>> to be a Developer regardless of level. However, the description of the >>> position indicates that the old-school definition is being used-- you all >>> want a seasoned Developer. In that case, those rates are wayyyyy off. It >>> is what it is. >>> >>> *From:* "Lockwood, Teresa L" <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:18 PM >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >>> >>> ** >>> Thank you Nathan! I’m sure most of us are reading these replies >>> thinking how crazy it is for folks to be responding about how little money >>> this is. I’ve been doing Remedy administration since Remedy owned the >>> company and still don’t make more than this job is offering. Either I’m >>> grossly underpaid or folks have forgotten what’s it’s like to work for a >>> company with benefits. I’ve never contracted as I’ve always worked for a >>> large company but the salary for this company seems in line with what I’ve >>> seen. Sorry, that’s my 2 cents ;) >>> >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Aker >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:06 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >>> >>> ** >>> I’m continually amazed at the amount of people who chime in to ARSList >>> to roast someone who posts a job for a stationary basic Remedy position >>> offering 6 figures as though they have somehow insulted your worth and hurt >>> your market value. This is a stationary position for an ADMIN role, with >>> opportunity for conversion. This is not a 6mth – year long CMDB architect >>> position traveling to Iran people. I’m sure a 3-5 year experienced person >>> who wants a stable job with no travel would be very interested… I know, >>> I’ve helped interview and hire a number of people in this range >>> successfully over the last 5 years. >>> >>> Agreed this would be light for a traveling senior contracting position >>> for short term, but it’s been clearly stated it’s not. >>> >>> *Nathan Aker* >>> ITSM Solution Architect >>> >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David Charters >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:17 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >>> >>> ** >>> maybe they're just looking for newbies that just know how to do real >>> basic stuff >>> >>> >>> Sincerly, >>> >>> David Charters >>> Charters Technologies >>> 317-331-8985 >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Carl Wilson <[email protected]> >>> Date: 09/11/2013 8:32 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >>> >>> >>> ** >>> Don't normally chime in on these but .... >>> Wow, $340 - 360 USD a day is very low (UK rates start at around £350+ = >>> $550+ USD) ... Security clearance can add a fair amount of value to that. >>> >>> BTW: How are you Matt, been a long time J (you going to WWRUG?, I seen >>> Mr David Savino is ...) >>> >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> *Carl Wilson* >>> >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Matt >>> Moore >>> *Sent:* 11 September 2013 23:57 >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >>> >>> ** As stated in the job description, this is an admin position, and the >>> secret clearance can be processed. 48/hr is above market rate for Colorado >>> Springs, CO. Typically remedy administrators in Colorado Springs will make >>> $40-45/hr. All of our certified/cleared folks are working with >>> current clients of ours. The most we are currently paying those contractors >>> is 45/hr. Hopefully this answers your questions! >>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Differ, Alfred W CTR PHD NSWC, 210 < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> With an active clearance? >>> >>> I hope not. >>> >>> -al >>> >>> >>> Alfred Differ - Sr. Database Engineer >>> NDTI / NSWC PHD >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Charters >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:45 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >>> >>> $48.00/hr? Does anyone worth their Remedy salt work for that kind of >>> rate? Maybe 2 x 48? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> David Charters >>> Charters Technologies >>> 317-331-8985 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Moore >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:06 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET CLEARANCE >>> - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - Contract Rate >>> $38-48/hr >>> >>> ****Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - >>> $80-100K (Based on experience) - Contract Rate $38-48/hr***** >>> >>> Top Three Skills: >>> 1.BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.5 or higher >>> 2.Producing technical requirements and design documentation 3.Provide >>> systems administration on servers that house Remedy Applications >>> >>> Job Description: >>> >>> •Produce technical requirements and design documentation that describes >>> system requirements, performance criteria, data flows, and end-user >>> interfaces. >>> •Develop, change, test and deploy at least 5 NEC Information Technology >>> Infrastrusture Library (ITIL) processes into Remedy processes averaged per >>> month. >>> •Use the Remedy Administrator tool to tune and modify Remedy >>> escalations, notifications, filters, active links and forms. >>> •Administer application data daily. >>> •Patch the Remedy Applications monthly or as needed. >>> •Work with internal and external agencies to ensure the Remedy suite of >>> applications are being fully supported. >>> •Execute database queries, create database tables, and tune database >>> performance daily. >>> •Provide system administration on servers that house the Remedy >>> Applications. >>> >>> >>> Education/Experience: >>> • AA degree in IT, or related field, or a combination of education and >>> work experience equivalency. >>> • Must have excellent interpersonal skills including tact and diplomacy. >>> • Must have excellent verbal and written communications skills. >>> Other: >>> • Must have or be able to obtain Secret security clearance • Must have >>> CompTIA Security + certification • BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy >>> AR System 7.5 or higher >>> >>> >>> ALL OCCUPATIONS LISTED ABOVE RECEIVE THE FOLLOWING BENEFITS: >>> >>> HEALTH & WELFARE: $3.81 per hour or $152.40 per week or $660.40 per >>> month (TAX FREE) >>> >>> VACATION: 2 weeks paid vacation after 1 year of service with a >>> contractor or successor; 3 weeks after 5 years, 4 weeks after 15 years, and >>> 5 weeks after 25 years. >>> Length of service includes the whole span of continuous service with the >>> present contractor or successor, wherever employed, and with the >>> predecessor contractors in the performance of similar work at the same >>> Federal facility. 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