True....but the rate you get paid daily isn't the same as requiring
relocation assistance to take the job...that can be negotiated with the
hiring company :)


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian Goralczyk <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
> I think the issue that people are bringing up when saying the rates are
> low is that basically you are limiting yourself to people in the area.
>  Anyone outside the area that might have to travel can't afford to for that
> rate unless someone else is picking up the tab.
>
> Even if you consider moving for the job, the rate is to low to cover
> moving expenses in most peoples eyes.
>
> But like everyone else, this is my view.
>
> Brian Goralczyk
>
> Brian Goralczyk
> Phone 574-643-1144
> Email [email protected]
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Longwing, Lj <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> I think the 'rate' discussion is more complicated than all of that.  I
>> have been a Remedy developer in my area for 15+ years....I know my value,
>> and am certainly nowhere NEAR a 'Junior' developer.  I know the cost of
>> living ranges in Colorado Springs and I can honestly say that I have worked
>> for the rate discussed in this posting.
>>
>> If I lived say...in DC, where many of the 'government' jobs come out
>> of...no, this rate would be an insult and wouldn't provide a sufficient
>> income to live comfortably.....but in a country where the poverty line sits
>> somewhere around $20K/year, I can't say a job paying 5 times that is a
>> 'bad' job by any means.
>>
>> It's true that Colorado Springs is not Virginia/DC/New York/Washington,
>> as far as markets are concerned....but the rates that are typically
>> discussed on the list are, as you said 'contract' rates...and the rate
>> being discussed in this posting is an employee rate.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Ars Lister <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> The truth is, for a regular salaried employee, the salary is OK and the
>>> rates translate into salary.  Contractors typically do not get holidays,
>>> sick days, vacation days, or personal days.  If it's a W-2 contract rate,
>>> they MAY get access to the medical aspect of the benefit plans but are
>>> typically not invited into the 401K aspect.  Ergo, translating salaries
>>> into rates are improper and non-competitive.
>>>
>>> As for stability, I and several of my associates have had 1-2 year
>>> engagements at more than double those rates at numerous companies and
>>> governmental agencies.  Stability does not define the value of the skillset
>>> on the market.  If you're able to leverage people who do not know their
>>> value on the market-- kudos.  If your cost of living is lower than other
>>> markets, then yes, a reduction of $10-20 on the rate may still be
>>> competitive.  But over half?  Then like someone said earlier, you must be
>>> looking for a junior person.
>>>
>>> PS:  Remedy Administrator used to mean Remedy Developer but in this day
>>> and age, it usually means someone who is configuring the applications with
>>> data.  The advertised rates are appropriate for Remedy Admins with that
>>> detail as that is a science in itself, but no where close to what it takes
>>> to be a Developer regardless of level.  However, the description of the
>>> position indicates that the old-school definition is being used-- you all
>>> want a seasoned Developer.  In that case, those rates are wayyyyy off.  It
>>> is what it is.
>>>
>>>    *From:* "Lockwood, Teresa L" <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:18 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET
>>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) -
>>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr
>>>
>>> **
>>>  Thank you Nathan!  I’m sure most of us are reading these replies
>>> thinking how crazy it is for folks to be responding about how little money
>>> this is.  I’ve been doing Remedy administration since Remedy owned the
>>> company and still don’t make more than this job is offering.  Either I’m
>>> grossly underpaid or folks have forgotten what’s it’s like to work for a
>>> company with benefits.  I’ve never contracted as I’ve always worked for a
>>> large company but the salary for this company seems in line with what I’ve
>>> seen.  Sorry, that’s my 2 cents ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Aker
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:06 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET
>>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) -
>>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr
>>>
>>> **
>>> I’m continually amazed at the amount of people who chime in to ARSList
>>> to roast someone who posts a job for a stationary basic Remedy position
>>> offering 6 figures as though they have somehow insulted your worth and hurt
>>> your market value.  This is a stationary position for an ADMIN role, with
>>> opportunity for conversion.  This is not a 6mth – year long CMDB architect
>>> position traveling to Iran people.   I’m sure a 3-5 year experienced person
>>> who wants a stable job with no travel would be very interested…  I know,
>>> I’ve helped interview and hire a number of people in this range
>>> successfully over the last 5 years.
>>>
>>> Agreed this would be light for a traveling senior contracting position
>>> for short term, but it’s been clearly stated it’s not.
>>>
>>> *Nathan Aker*
>>> ITSM Solution Architect
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David Charters
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:17 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET
>>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) -
>>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr
>>>
>>> **
>>> maybe they're just looking for newbies that just know how to do real
>>> basic stuff
>>>
>>>
>>>  Sincerly,
>>>
>>>  David Charters
>>>  Charters Technologies
>>>  317-331-8985
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Carl Wilson <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 09/11/2013 8:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET
>>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) -
>>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>> Don't normally chime in on these but ....
>>> Wow, $340 - 360 USD a day is very low (UK rates start at around £350+ =
>>> $550+ USD) ... Security clearance can add a fair amount of value to that.
>>>
>>> BTW: How are you Matt, been a long time J (you going to WWRUG?, I seen
>>> Mr David Savino is ...)
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> *Carl Wilson*
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Matt
>>> Moore
>>> *Sent:* 11 September 2013 23:57
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET
>>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) -
>>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr
>>>
>>> ** As stated in the job description, this is an admin position, and the
>>> secret clearance can be processed. 48/hr is above market rate for Colorado
>>> Springs, CO. Typically remedy administrators in Colorado Springs will make
>>> $40-45/hr. All of our certified/cleared folks are working with
>>> current clients of ours. The most we are currently paying those contractors
>>> is 45/hr. Hopefully this answers your questions!
>>>  On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Differ, Alfred W CTR PHD NSWC, 210 <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> With an active clearance?
>>>
>>> I hope not.
>>>
>>> -al
>>>
>>>
>>> Alfred Differ - Sr. Database Engineer
>>> NDTI / NSWC PHD
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Charters
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:45 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET
>>> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) -
>>> Contract Rate $38-48/hr
>>>
>>> $48.00/hr? Does anyone worth their Remedy salt work for that kind of
>>> rate? Maybe 2 x 48?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> David Charters
>>> Charters Technologies
>>> 317-331-8985
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Moore
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:06 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET CLEARANCE
>>> - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - Contract Rate
>>> $38-48/hr
>>>
>>> ****Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire -
>>> $80-100K (Based on experience) - Contract Rate $38-48/hr*****
>>>
>>> Top Three Skills:
>>> 1.BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.5 or higher
>>> 2.Producing technical requirements and design documentation 3.Provide
>>> systems administration on servers that house Remedy Applications
>>>
>>> Job Description:
>>>
>>> •Produce technical requirements and design documentation that describes
>>> system requirements, performance criteria, data flows, and end-user
>>> interfaces.
>>> •Develop, change, test and deploy at least 5 NEC Information Technology
>>> Infrastrusture Library (ITIL) processes into Remedy processes averaged per
>>> month.
>>> •Use the Remedy Administrator tool to tune and modify Remedy
>>> escalations, notifications, filters, active links and forms.
>>> •Administer application data daily.
>>> •Patch the Remedy Applications monthly or as needed.
>>> •Work with internal and external agencies to ensure the Remedy suite of
>>> applications are being fully supported.
>>> •Execute database queries, create database tables, and tune database
>>> performance daily.
>>> •Provide system administration on servers that house the Remedy
>>> Applications.
>>>
>>>
>>> Education/Experience:
>>> • AA degree in IT, or related field, or a combination of education and
>>> work experience equivalency.
>>> • Must have excellent interpersonal skills including tact and diplomacy.
>>> • Must have excellent verbal and written communications skills.
>>> Other:
>>> • Must have or be able to obtain Secret security clearance • Must have
>>> CompTIA Security + certification • BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy
>>> AR System 7.5 or higher
>>>
>>>
>>> ALL OCCUPATIONS LISTED ABOVE RECEIVE THE FOLLOWING BENEFITS:
>>>
>>> HEALTH & WELFARE: $3.81 per hour or $152.40 per week or $660.40 per
>>> month (TAX FREE)
>>>
>>> VACATION: 2 weeks paid vacation after 1 year of service with a
>>> contractor or successor; 3 weeks after 5 years, 4 weeks after 15 years, and
>>> 5 weeks after 25 years.
>>> Length of service includes the whole span of continuous service with the
>>> present contractor or successor, wherever employed, and with the
>>> predecessor contractors in the performance of similar work at the same
>>> Federal facility. (Reg. 29 CFR 4.173)
>>>
>>> HOLIDAYS: A minimum of ten paid holidays per year, New Year's Day,
>>> Martin Luther King Jr's Birthday, Washington's Birthday, Memorial Day,
>>> Independence Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans' Day, Thanksgiving Day,
>>> and Christmas Day. (A contractor may substitute for any of the named
>>> holidays another day off with pay in accordance with a plan communicated to
>>> the employees involved.) (See 29 CFR 4174)
>>> Education/Experience:
>>> • AA degree in IT, or related field, or a combination of education and
>>> work experience equivalency.
>>> • Must have excellent interpersonal skills including tact and diplomacy.
>>> • Must have excellent verbal and written communications skills.
>>>
>>> Other:
>>> • Must have or be able to obtain Secret security clearance • Must have
>>> CompTIA Security + certification • BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy
>>> AR System 7.5 or higher
>>>
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