Ron, First - Stay out of Base mode...if you can't do something in Best Practice, you need to figure out how to do it there....going to base IS NOT THE ANSWER to your problem...
Second - More than likely the reason you couldn't create a field is because you were right clicking somewhere on a view that hadn't been overlaid (despite the form being overlaid)...and when a view isn't overlaid, you can't 'customize' it with new fields...so the option is disabled... So...if the form is overlaid, and you need to add a field to the form somewhere...overlay the view as well. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Joe D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > Ron. That warning thing does not mean much.**** > > ** ** > > In fact I wish BMC rewrote that message under other different conditions.* > *** > > ** ** > > Personally I stay away from the 10000000x range. From observation of what > you see in the fields meta table, BMC Software has encroached on that range > and have built field sin that range.**** > > ** ** > > I usually use field IDs in the range 600000000 to about 999999999 – you do > get a warning that you are trying to save a field outside blah blah blah.. > This is a range that BMC Software appears to have not built a single field > on, if you look at any of the out of the box applications. I think we are > safe to use that range.**** > > ** ** > > By the way if you are using archgid to change the field ID’s when you > recognize the need to change them, make sure they are not used in the > mappings of filters that are setting fields from web services. The archgid > does not change ID’s in those filters and does not report on its verbose > that it has not. You will have to redo those mappings manually. From my > conversation with Doug, he stated that since archgid was developed way > before web services was a feature in the AR System, it got left out when it > became a feature.**** > > ** ** > > If there is enough demand for it to be rewritten to include and consider > web services in its use, it might get re-written.**** > > ** ** > > Joe**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Young, Ronald P. > *Sent:* Monday, October 07, 2013 1:58 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* ...ranges out of reserve range > **** > > ** ** > > Thanks much Michelle for the below email!**** > > ** ** > > I know I have inquired about this previously but I want to follow up > because I am still getting the same error. I have Dev 8.0. I am in “Base > mode” because even in Best Mode not would not let me add a character > field…it was grayed out. So I went back into Base mode as I see in the > chart below to create this field. Once I got the field the way I wanted it > I clicked save and it gave me the “out of reserved range id” error. Most of > the fields on the form…origin form start with like 536######...for instance > 536873894. Anyway, it would let me save it but I cancelled and changed the > field ID to say 100000004 and it saved with no error. Am I wrong in doing > that or what should I do. The previous time I received this error I looked > at the help files and it talked about the reserved ranges and that I should > use 100000000 and up until a certain number (don’t have that in front of me > right now.) The thing is I have several forms that my team lead is wanting > me to change and I don’t want to run into this every time I change or add a > field. Let me know what you think. **** > > ** ** > > *Thanks,* > > *Ron Young* > > * * > > “To the world you may be one person but to one person you may be the > world.”** > > ** ** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lucero, Michelle > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:40 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Form Edit**** > > ** ** > > ** **** > > Hi, Ron:**** > > ** ** > > To be on the safe side, simply don’t step out of ‘Best Practice Mode’ at > all. The description you gave sounds as if you stepped out of ‘Best > Practice Mode’ into ‘Base Development Mode’ and made the change. Just > don’t go there.**** > > ** ** > > If any object in your environment shows “Unmodified”, then consider it a > BMC OOB object. Create an overlay to make a change to said object. Below > is a table of Customization Types you’ll see in Developer Studio.**** > > ** ** > > --the text in the table below can be found in Developer Studio Help**** > > *Customization Type***** > > *Description ***** > > *Mode ***** > > Custom **** > > Identifies custom objects**** > > Best Practice Customization**** > > Overlay **** > > Identifies overlay objects**** > > Best Practice Customization**** > > Overlaid **** > > Identifies overlaid origin objects **** > > Base development **** > > Unmodified **** > > Identifies origin objects that are not overlaid **** > > Best Practice Customization and Base Development **** > > ** ** > > My interpretation of Customization Type:**** > > *Custom – *Objects you or other developers in your environment have > created in Best Practice Customization mode (as you should always do).**** > > *Overlay – *BMC OOB objects that were customized by you or other > developers in your environment in Best Practice Customization mode.**** > > *Overlaid – *BMC OOB objects that were overlain. You will only see this > customization type in Base Development Mode. If you see it, you’re in the > wrong mode.**** > > *Unmodified – *BMC OOB objects that haven’t been updated in anyway by > your or other developers in your environment.**** > > ** ** > > Two Resources:**** > > **- **Developer Studio Help – lots of articles on overlays**** > > **- **BMC Webinar from last week – “Overlays and Customizations”* > *** > > ** ** > > Hope this helps.**** > > Michelle**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Young, Ronald P. > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:56 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Form Edit**** > > ** ** > > ** **** > > Got it…so custom is just used when I create something totally new in Best > Practice correct? Anything, original say in Base Mode should be just be > overlaid in Best practice mode and not converted to custom correct?**** > > ** ** > > *Thanks,* > > *Ron Young* > > * * > > “To the world you may be one person but to one person you may be the > world.”** > > ** ** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Karthik > Nagaramu > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:50 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Form Edit**** > > ** ** > > ** **** > > Hi, > The best approach is to create overlay in best practice mode.**** > > Regards, > Karthik**** > > On Oct 1, 2013 11:32 PM, "Young, Ronald P." <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > ** **** > > Thanks Karthik. Also, let me know if that is the right thing to do by > bringing a form that states unmodified (in Base and Best Practice Modes) > and then convert it to custom in Best Practice Mode or is it best to just > overlay it in Best Practice mode?**** > > **** > > *Thanks,***** > > *Ron Young***** > > * ***** > > “To the world you may be one person but to one person you may be the > world.”**** > > **** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Nagaramu > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:14 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Form Edit**** > > **** > > ** Hi,**** > > **** > > Any form or active link changes midtier needs to be flushed.**** > > **** > > Regards,**** > > Karthik > > On Tuesday, October 1, 2013, Ron Young wrote:**** > > Quick question for you all. I brought a form from basic and converted it > to custom. Right or was I wrong in doing that? Then I went in and made some > fields required which worked fine but then I also made some fields hidden > and this did not work. I am not sure if the cache needs to be flushed for > this to work or not but that has not been done. Is that needed? I don't > have access to the confi tool since our Remedy Server is maintained by our > IT group. I did log out and then log back into Remedy and those areas that > I made hidden are still there. > > What do you think? > > Is it always best to flush cache after editing a form or not? > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"**** > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ **** > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ **** > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ **** > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ **** > ------------------------------ > > This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, > may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary > and subject to important terms and conditions available at > http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. 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