Joe help me understand the downtime with a server group scenario.

If you have 3 web servers (which can rotate each out and be patched, os and
application wise - then rotated back in), and have 3 Servers is a server
group (which again be pulled patched, upgraded, OS patched and put back
into group) one at a time..  All the servers in the group are connected to
the SQL Cluster / oracle RAC .. I still see no outages, vice a bomb or
something physical/network related.
DR is the fail over to a completely redundant system in a different
location, where either data replication was going on, or the DSO was turned
to active to a live system, which is the case of the bomb/tornado/911
instance.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Joe D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote:

> Within certain limits though.
>
> I would not go that far to claim to the customer/management that there will
> be absolutely no down time during code migration.
>
> There will be.
>
> By taking servers on and off a server group, to upgrade core system
> versions, yes that can be done with 'minimal' down time. But the migration
> and code upgrade, takes as much down time as the migration of the code
> itself takes.
>
> Even if you stand up a completely new parallel system, and then decide a
> switch by mirroring a database, there still will be that minimal time
> required to port the delta data.
>
> Personally I think it is not possible to completely eliminate downtime if
> your system is significantly large. Its like approaching infinity in
> mathematics - you can get close, but you can never get there. You just got
> to be content you got close enough..
>
> Cheers
>
> Joe
>
>
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>
> 24/7 is already there... It is called server groups, if you implement this
> would can take a server down and the others will takeover while it is being
> patched.  You will need a load balancer as well.  This also allows for
> larger system use as well
> My 2 cents
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 17, 2014, at 3:12 PM, James Smith <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nice info Doug, thanks for sharing. Want to add 2 cents if its considered
> then its of great use.
> >
> > Currently we have windows based tools for development activities and data
> migration like Developer studio and Import tool. Will it be feasible to
> make
> then available over web?
> >
> > One more thing, how can we make remedy to be available 24*7 during
> upgrades as well - zero downtime upgrades. This will help the product to
> compete in the market.
>
>
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