Re: [AsburyPark] Re: CHECKMATE!

[luvinasburypark]

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: The bottom line is that there are too many "feelers" in Asbury Park and not enough "thinkers" and that has had serious adverse consequences to the long term future of this City. "Sounds" good.  "Seems" logical, but it's not.  It's the "either-or" fallacy which ignores other possibilities.  Truth is, most people fall on a continuum somewhere between the theoretical types you've constructed.   That's hard for me to admit because, on the level of national politics, I've caught myself making the same generalizations.  Outraged at the results of last November's election, I concluded that the 59 million who voted for Bush were all dupes, easily led by the emotional media appeals generated by Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch's enterprises; similarly the 57 million were well-informed thoughtful votes.  The problem is that I know those election results were much more complex; it's just too easy to attribute emotionalism to those whom we don't agree with.                           ========Original Message======== Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: CHECKMATE! Date: 5/9/2005 10:32:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on:    --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It seemed to me more an impassioned response to constant carping. > That'll beat specious reasoning any day. The greatest divide I have seen in the past four years has been between the following admittedly oversimplified groups: Type A - Those who have no experiance in the deciplines needed to evaluate if the redevelopment process and decisions have been in the best interests on the City. Driven primarily by being part of the in crowd and happy to see any movement perceived as positive no matter what it may be. Ready to repeat the catch phrases of progress to remain in good standing with the in crowd. Rarely if ever attend Council, Planning Board, Zoning Board, and other public meetings. Type B - Those who have a background in planning, law, zoning, history, preservation, urban redevelopment or are at least willing to learn about them or have long term knowledge about Asbury Park. Driven primarily by seeking out the facts about the redevelopment and its effect on the community and wanting to settle for nothing less than the best decisions. Unconcerned about being accepted by the in crowd and participates in public meetings. In the Myers-Briggs type of personality profiles these two groups would most probably score at opposite ends of the spectrum. In general more people are driven by "feelings" than there are people driven by "logic". The feeling types, A in my example above, will tend to gravitate toward a common position that re-enforces the group. The B types above will tend to question and challange information in the search for the facts. This leads to discourse that inhibits the formation of a larger group B collective. The bottom line is that there are too many "feelers" in Asbury Park and not enough "thinkers" and that has had serious adverse consequences to the long term future of this City. (Just some more specious observations) Or are they ?? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.