Skip you did it agian:

Your post is filled with personal insults. I've asked you not to 
address me in your posts.  Will you respect my wishes please?


--- In [email protected], "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> "Larry did not comprehend that having a private investment Â…of 
several
> million dollars completed next to property that he owns is a 'good
> thing' and would increase that adjacent property's value. His only
> concern was that he get $2.5 million or nothing. Both Larry and the
> City got exactly that, nothing but a vacant lot, all due to bad
> planning or more accurately, no planning at all. Bad economics 
rules
> in Asbury Park."
> 
> You've hit the nail on the head.  "Larry [does] not comprehendÂ…" 
Tom
> and Dan J., despite all their singing of praise for the Fish, do 
not
> comprehend that naming a real estate speculator a `Master 
Developer'
> does not a developer make.  Council joins in this confederation of
> dunces in not comprehending that throwing away prime city assets 
for
> pennies on the dollar will guarantee nothing more than a huge 
windfall
> profit for the dunce lucky enough to have stolen that lottery 
ticket.
> 
> It is not bad economics ruling Asbury it is a surplus of dumbness.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "bluebishop82" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Business is business.  Tillie is dead 
> > > because no one could re-coup a $16 million investment with 
pinball 
> > > machine quarters as a return.  Economics rule (as it should).
> > > 
> > 
> > Tillie (The Palace) is dead because of not planning for it to 
> > survive. At the time of the bankruptcy settlement the Palace 
block 
> > was zoned for amusement commercial uses. At that time the 
original 
> > carousel and ferris wheel had been purchased by private 
investment 
> > (Bill Sitar) and returned to NJ from Mississippi.
> > 
> > It was well publicized that Mr. Sitar was prepared to redevelope 
the 
> > Palace block with an investment of several million dollars. Not 
as a 
> > pinball arcade, but as a first class family entertainment venue 
> > combining historic rides with 21st century commercial and retail 
uses.
> > 
> > Had that been planned for, we would now (3-4 years later) have a 
> > major tax ratable and tourism attraction instead of a vacant 
lot. The 
> > zoning on that site was changed to primarily condo use at the 
request 
> > of the 'master developer'.
> > 
> > Yes there was a contingency for 1/2 the palace block to be saved 
but 
> > only if the Fishman's unrealistic price of $2.5 million were 
met. I 
> > had a meeting with Larry regarding this and attempted to explain 
the 
> > good business sense of striking a deal with a competent 
developer 
> > (Mr. Sitar).
> > 
> > Larry did not comprehend that having a private investment (other 
than 
> > ones own money) of several million dollars completed next to 
property 
> > that he owns is a 'good thing' and would increase that adjacent 
> > property's value. His only concern was that he get $2.5 million 
or 
> > nothing.
> > 
> > Both Larry and the City got exactly that, nothing but a vacant 
lot, 
> > all due to bad planning or more accrately, no planning at all. 
Bad 
> > economics rules in Asbury Park.
> > 
> > Werner




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