Steve - I am going to sound as much like a broken record as you. Please provide the sources for your assorted claims and statistics. I am very interested in reading them to see if you are applying them properly.
Tom --- In [email protected], "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Allan, > > No Condo in Asbury Park is worth $1 Million, nor will any be for > probably a decade, or more! > > As far as the Crime goes, it's 3 Times worse now than it was in 2000, > Before the Redevelopment Began! Until these Clowns who think destroying > the lives of 10,000 Local Minorities to get themselves Rich REALIZE that > they're CAUSING the Crime, Reality won't set in! > > I've just been in Asbury Park since 1996, but there's been a BIG change > in just the past 4 Years! I've never seen so much unrest in Minority > Communities since the late 1960's and early 1970's! The "Community" as > it's been referred to generally, which more accurately would be called > the "Old" or Past or previously existing Community has NEVER, to this > day, been invited "To the Table" with the Redevelopers ... To discuss > how they can partake in the benefits of the Redevelopment! > > And since they consist of 78% of the Population, to them the > Redevelopment is NOT a redevelopment, but an Invasion by the Rich! And > it IS! People who have lived here from 20 Years to over three or four > generations are expected to now just get up and Disappear .... > Peacefully, so that strangers who weren't even HERE 5 years ago can come > in and get Rich in 3-4 Years! > > Yes, there's Crime! More importantly, the biggest Criminals ARE the > Redevelopers, who are breaking Every Law that God has given us about > caring for our fellow Man (And Women & Children). They are just > intentionally forcing OUT the Afro-Americans, of which about 2,000 are > already gone! And it's being done because People on the City Council, > School Board and Planning Board are placed BY the Redevelopers! Money > does it! And cheating and rigging Elections! > > But just wait until the Condo Owners start to move in, and a few of them > are Shot! Wow, all of a sudden, the Values may drop overnight on the > Condo Values! Wanna make a bet? > > The way this Redevelopment SHOULD have gone was that they should build > ALL 3,100 Condos in three tier price ranging: Low Income, Moderate > Income and the ones they're building .. High Income! > > As I mentioned many other times, we need (The City): > > 1. Rent Control > 2. Affordable Housing (Three Tier) > 3. Living Wage Jobs & a Program to Attract Jobs and Train > People > > WHY is there so much Crime? Below are many of the Reasons, which > combined, add up to creating a boiling point crisis for Asbury > Residents: > > Redevelopment Created Problems: > > * The Redevelopment is designed to Gentrify the Population on > Purpose. Two Groups of People came here from Lakewood and NYC to carry > out the plans. Afro-Americans are the highest level of targeted > People for them to get out of the City at any cost! > * A Totally Dysfunctional City Hall, where the same People who > are supposed to be helping the Minorities have sold out, and are > stacking the odds against them, rather than helping them. Plus a > new City Manager and his Team who were brought in to Service the > Redeveloper as their primary responsibility, whether or not the > City OR it's Residents gain from the results. > * No Rent Control Passed to protect existing Residents (By City > Council) > * NO Affordable Housing at ALL in Redevelopment Plan or Contract > * Master Redeveloper in Default of Contract by NOT hiring 20% of > Asbury Park Workers and Contractors as promised for Construction > Jobs. > * Redevelopment caused a Crime Rate Increase for the past four > years, due to NO Provisions to help or protect Low Income > Residents, which caused tensions to rise, and resulted in desperate > people doing desperate things, and placed the entire City at Unrest! > > Pre-Existing Problems: > > 1. A Population of about 8-10,000 under-educated Minority > People, many of them with no High School Diploma. > 2. One of the largest concentrations of Dysfunctional Families > with mostly no Fathers present. > 3. A Group of Religious Leaders who are out for their OWN > Congregant's needs only, or their OWN personal gains. Most don't > care about the general population, or don't do anything. > 4. No Existing large Organizational Tenants Rights Group or > Citizens Group to Organize requests for inclusion in Redevelopment > Plans & Benefits. > 5. Poor Educational System with few exceptions. > 6. No City Community Center. > 7. No City Youth Center. > 8. West Side Community Center is under funded, partly due > to misallocation of Community Development Block Grants by the City. > 9. Severe lack of well paying Jobs available for Residents. > 10. Racial Prejudice is alive and kicking both in the Private > Sector, as well as throughout City Hall and the School System. > So, Allan, chew on those things for a while, OK? You'll most likely > disagree with me like the selfish Yuppie Raiders that have dropped into > the City in recent years, but, it's your right, even if you're wrong! > > Bottom line is that the situation is getting worse, not better, as time > goes on! When you hold an entire Community hostage for years while > you're planning to evict them, what must you and I expect, anyway? > > Peace, > > Steve > > W > > > --- In [email protected], Allan Peterson <nnjallans1@> > wrote: > > > > Where else can you get all this and now have to pay 400 to over a > million for a home. > > > > Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Greetings, > > I'm writing this in response to the ongoing fight on this message > board pertaining to > > racism, minimum wage and the entire Asburysteve thread. > > I recently moved to Asbury, and when I told my many friends that I was > doing so, they all > > had the same reaction..."Asbury, ew. It's dangerous there" or "Asbury, > you mean that town > > on the shore that has all that crime" > > I was even apprenhensive to move here. A week after I signed my lease, > I took a drive to > > visit my soon to be home, and had a drug dealer try and flag me down > near the > > Golddigger, and immediately after I got approached by a prostitute > because she figured I > > pulled over for her, not because I wanted to check out my new home. > > In any case, I love living in Asbury. Asbury has been a part of my > life for as long as I can > > remember. But unfortunately, the good memories are mingled with the > bad...tales of > > friends being attacked outside of the Stone Pony one night, having one > of my beloved > > bicycles stolen, only to be spotted outside a crack den in Asbury. I'm > sure we all have such > > tales of woe. > > Since moving to Asbury, I've gotten to see the political in-fighting > that doesn't seem to be > > making much progress. I've seen people doing crack in broad daylight > in the beautiful > > Library Square Park. I've been yelled at in that park while walking my > dog because some > > guy thought I was looking at him (he yelled some pretty ugly racial > things at me, then > > yelled "what's the matter, you don't want a black man in your white > assed park") I have > > liquor bottles and other debris on my lawn practically every morning. > My neighborhood is > > filled with the same 3 or 4 prostitututes daily, and the accompanying > cars that troll around > > in search of them. > > What's going to happen when the new people that AP is trying to > attract wind up here? > > I think there's quite a bit of good going on in AP right now, but > unfortunately that is being > > overshadowed by the bad. On one hand, we have the amazing Market in > the Middle and > > it's little group of flourishing restaraunts, on the other hand we > have 3 people shot and > > one killed just a few blocks away from where I live. > > It seems to me that most of the problems in AP are drug related. AP > has been known for > > decades to be a place to score drugs. The prostitutes are all drug > addicts, and the dealers > > supply them. It's a vicious cycle. > > Asbury is also plagued with racial seperation and racial stereotyping, > which is fueled by > > things like last weeks murder, and the weekly stories that appear in > local newspapers > > police blotters. > > I hope Asbury doesn't suffer a similar fate to Atlantic City, where > they have a 2 block wide > > strip of prosperity bordering on a wasteland. > > I don't know what the answers are, but I believe that Asbury needs to > unite the east and > > west, and both sides need to fight the sleezy and dangerous parts of > Asbury that give us > > the horrible reputation that we have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! 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