All have the right to their opinion.  I just do find it fair to say it was the 
worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night 
in the summer, the place is packed.  I am not saying I love the architecture 
but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue.  And the city of Long 
Branch is collecting on it.  


----- Original Message ----
From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

Hinge,


You're far from alone in hating it.   Success or not, many people think it's 
extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach.






On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:


I guess it's a matter of taste.
I hate it with a passion.
I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my 
heart.
In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture 
becomes a 
destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an 
overwhelming 
ugly building to look at.
And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long 
before Pier 
Village.
In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values.
I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm 
bored.
I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.

--- In [email protected], Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The 
> design is not 
perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about 
what was there 
before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with 
retail on
the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> 
> So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> I loved it.
> The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly 
> friendly, 
friendly 
> with dignity.
> Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people.
> My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection.
> For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. 
> Interestingly, they 
all 
> began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing.
> They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that 
> while Red 
Bank 
> looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too 
> expensive, 
and the 
> lack of parking annoying.
> When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all 
> agreed that 
it's the 
> worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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