Hi Mahanta da I wish you were my guardian in life. I would have benefitted immensely. But in the proess, I could have created havoc in my neighbourhhood and may be in society too. Why I am saying so ? Since you don't believe in any benchmark which is subjective, I could have done anything immoral or unethical. Had someone complained about my mischiefs, I am sure you would have said the same thing which you are trying hard to put forth. I am really unlucky or should I say lucky.
A balanced individual is one who not only condemns 1984 sikh riots or Gujarat riots but also what happened in Nellie in 1983. Unfortunately, that has dubious distinction of bloodiest carnage of independent India. One should not be so blatantly choosy in picking up example to justify one's point. I told you before also that all right thinking Assamese should try to demolish the miconceptions about the state or the people before everyone, be it Punjabi, Haryanvi, German or Italian as and when such opportunity comes. But at the same time, nowhere did I say that it should be the be all and end all of our life. The perception of the general Punjabis is wrong. I am trying in my own humble way to dispel those myths. But I am sure you would see some vested interest in that effort of mine. Because it is becoming increasingly clear to me now that you can not analyse any divergent point of view (which is not in consonance with that of yours) in an objective way. Alas that is from a person who does not believe in subjective benchmark. One request Mahanta da. This is not a personal attack on you. The attack is only on your point of view. Looking forward to your reply. Bye for now. Mayur Chandigarh --- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mayur: > > > But to find out my kindness or cruelty, you > >have to capitalise on abstract yardstick. > > > > **** I knew that all too well. It is highly > subjective. And that is > exactly why it is not a reliable benchmark. > > When you attempt to compare Assamese ethnic > qualities with say, > Haryanese, the result would be dependent on YOUR > perceptions of the > people of Haryana, which you have formed over > whatever period you > lived in Chandigarh. Would it be therefore a > reliable assessment? > Heck no! Not by a long shot. You just demonstrated > in the other post > how you assessed the 'sentimental', 'not > logical/rational' quality of > the Oxomiya from one assessment of a group of > rioters, even though > you lived in Assam and grew up there, and thus could > be expected to > be more thoughtful and perceptive in your > assessments. > > > If I used your method to judge the people of > Haryana, considering > the 1984 Sikh pogroms or last month's incineration > of sixty 'dalit' > houses; I would call them nothing less than > genocidal maniacs that do > not deserve to be called human. And worse still the > Gujaratis based > on the post Godhra massacres. > > But would that be correct? > > That is why I asked you whether you thought the > perception of > Punjabis in Chandigarh about Assam as a land full of > violent and > murderous people a fair or correct one and the > related questions. I > still await you answer. > > Take care, > > cm > > > > > > > > At 1:07 AM -0700 9/18/05, mayur bora wrote: > >Dear Mahanta da > > > >You will find my detailed response in the earlier > >mail. Regarding benchmark, I want to give one > example. > >To determine my height or weight, you have concrete > >benchmark. But to find out my kindness or cruelty, > you > >have to capitalise on abstract yardstick. No > engineer > >or architect can concretise it. > > > >I hope that makes my position clear. > > > >Let us not waste our time by looking for something > >which we know that it does not exist. > > > >Regars as always > > > >Mayur > >Chandigarh > >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hi Mayur: > >> > >> > >> >So go at it my friend. Prove your mettle. > Define > >> your benchmark, and > >> >I promise >to assist you with all the deep dark > >> shortcomings of your > >> >people and mine, the >kharkhowas. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> *** Remember the above :-)? I was hoping to see > you > >> define the > >> benchmark with which you were aiming to judge > the > >> Assamese people's > >> 'strengths and weaknesses'. That was my ONLY > >> condition. You need a > >> yardstick to measure something. Short/long, > >> better/worse, > >> deeper/shallower and the like are meaningless > terms, > >> nebulous, unless > >> you also can say compared to what, measured with > >> what, based on what > >> benchmark as the norm? That should not be too > hard > >> a concept for you > >> to understand I am sure. > >> > >> The point is, your attempts to judge Assamese > >> 'strengths and > >> weaknesses' is faulty in its essence, because > you > >> were going to use > >> the ethnic/cultural traits of those 'other > Indians', > >> which by > >> themselves are, of necessity, subjective. > >> Why should THOSE other INDIANS be the benchmark > to > >> judge the > >> Assamese? And what is the validity of the > >> PERCEPTIONS ( they are not > >> absolute measures, as you realize) about those > other > >> Indians? > >> > >> Therefore, your exercise was going to be an > >> arbitrary comparison of > >> Assamese cultural/sociological traits, to > validate > >> your own > >> perceptions. > >> > >> Question is why do you need to do that? To feel > >> good about your > >> ethnic /cultural traits, or feel bad about? > >> > >> Form your many notes it is abundantly clear that > >> your pre-occupation > >> is with a desire to underscore individuals' > negative > >> traits and slap > >> them on to the entire people as a label. The > >> attempt is to make the > >> exercise seem legitimate, scientific, or > >> comprehensive, by inviting > >> Assam Netters to chime in. > >> > >> Question is why? I have no trouble believing you > >> that it is not > >> another backdoor political ploy that I have seen > in > > > Assam Net in the > >> past. But it is a meaningless pursuit. > >> > >> Of course you have all the rights and privileges > :-) > >> as an > >> assam-netter to continue the endeavor. And I am > sure > >> there will be > >> the usual participants in the exercise too. But > what > >> will it mean? > >> > >> > >> > >> >But Mahanta da, I am not criticising you. > >> > >> *** Feel free to do so. That is what I am here > for. > >> I am aware of my > >> role as the fire-starter of Assam net, raising > >> passions, waking > >> people up to vent their disagreements and even > >> angers, a role I > >> relish :-). I have also > >> noticed over the many years in this forum, that > when > >> I take a nap > >> others too doze off--something that is not good. > I > >> hope someone like > >> you would be there to fill in , just so we keep > >> ,this juhalor mel > >> going over the ancient 'tunh-jui' of our > unfulfilled > >> collective hopes > >> and desires :-). > >> > >> > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
