>Point c has not been debated much.
The question is simple - Even given the dysfunctional
nature of Indian governance, what could potentially
have been the economic growth in Assam IF we did not
have problem c.
*** Nice try.
And if we are to indulge in SPECULATING, why should we limit
ourselves to the one Rajib Das would have us speculate on?
You have already stated - and I am sure most people
would have accepted - point a. Most would also accept
point b and RB did try to elucidate it in some of his
>e-mails.
*** WHO are the most people? Assam Netters? People of Assam?
People of India?
GoI, GoA?
And those who would accept it, what have they done about it? It
did not appear yesterday, on my arguments presented to Mayur you know?
What have we seen over the quarter century?
And having seen what we have, why should anyone speculate on the
great things happening to Assam, ONLY if the insurgency had NOT
appeared on the scene?
Is it believable ?
> RB did try to elucidate
*** RB did not elucidate ANYTHING. His verdicts are contrived to
BLAME Assam, to hold it guilty, as a JUSTIFICATION for his
support of India's claim to Assam and against Assam's
sovereignty aspirations, in pursuit of protecting his own kinds'
lifestyles, obtained from and sustained by the dysfunctional Indian
state.
And that is just on one point.
At 10:49 AM -0800 11/21/05, Rajib Das wrote:
I would personally define the problems as mentioned
above.
A SITUATION warrants an outlining of PROBLEMS. One can
say the SITUATION is that the aspirations of the
people of NE have not been met.
The primary problems could be, by and large, those
mentioned by RB.
These problems could have arisen BECAUSE of:
a. "Dysfunctional" Indian government
b. "Dysfunctional" GOA
c. The depradations of the liberation armies in the NE
You have already stated - and I am sure most people
would have accepted - point a. Most would also accept
point b and RB did try to elucidate it in some of his
e-mails.
I guess most would also agree that there are degrees
of "dysfunctionality".
Point c has not been debated much.
The question is simple - Even given the dysfunctional
nature of Indian governance, what could potentially
have been the economic growth in Assam IF we did not
have problem c.
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mayur:
>
> You took the easy road of following Rajen. I was
> hoping you would do
> a whole lot better. But as long as you did, and
> assuming that is the
> best we have to go with for the moment, let us look
> at Rajen's, and
> now yours too, problem statement:
>
> 1) The North East India is under developed compared
> to the rest of
> the country and compared to its natural resources.
> Within the North
> East, Assam is even lagging behind in development
> compared to the
> other states in the North East.
> 2) Compared to the rest of the country, the Assam
> has the problem of
> heaviest infiltration of illegal immigration which
> has been going one
> since 1930s.
> 3) Compared to the rest of the country, North East
> has the highest
> level of Corruption. Assam may be the worst.
>
>
> *** First off, they are not problem statements. They
> are descriptions
> of SYMPTOMS, arising out of certain PROBLEMS which
> would require
> fixing to make Assam the state of your ideals.
>
> Therefore, you all still need to find what the
> PROBLEMs are, and how
> your solution concept does or is expected to address
> the problems.
>
> You can take one issue at a time. And take your
> time. I will be
> looking forward to learning a whole lot.
>
> Best.
>
> cm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 5:33 AM -0800 11/21/05, mayur bora wrote:
> >Mahanta-da, by and large I agree with Rajen-da's
> list
> >of problems plaguing Assam.
> >
> >Mayur
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Let me try to help:
> >> We have these problems, in summary:
> >> 1) The North East India is under developed
> compared
> >> to the rest of the country and compared to its
> >> natural resources. Within the North East, Assam
> is
> >> even lagging behind in development compared to
> the
> >> other states in the North East.
> >> 2) Compared to the rest of the country, the
> Assam
> >> has the problem of heaviest infiltration of
> illegal
> >> immigration which has been going one since
> 1930s.
> >> 3) Compared to the rest of the country, North
> East
> >> has the highest level of Corruption. Assam may
> be
> >> the worst.
> >> 4) Among the North East, Nagaland has the
> problem of
> >> insurgency since after 1947 and which is still
> going
> >> on. The reason of insurgency in Nagaland is
> pure
> >> and simple. They want independence from India
> as
> >> their right.
> >> Assam also joined this insurgency 40 years after
> >> independence in 1979.
> >> The reason of insurgency in Assam are the 1, 2 &
> 3
> >> above.
> >> Assam has many other problems but the above are
> the
> >> main.
> >> Meghalaya is the only state whic is free from
> any
> >> insurgency so far and seem to be happily tagging
> >> along India.
> >> So is Mizoram at present.
> >> RB
> >> .
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: mc mahant
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Begalis and MIT
> >>
> >>
> >> The Problem Statement is not yet forthcoming
> from
> >> anybody!!
> >>
> >> mm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: mayur bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Begalis and MIT
> >> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:20:10 -0600
> >> >Hi Mayur:
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for the reply.
> >> >
> >> >You gave your idea of a solution here, but
> WHAT
> >> is the problem?
> >> >
> >> >Unless you tell us what you see as the
> >> problems, how can anyone weigh
> >> >if your solution concept addresses them?
> >> >
> >> >The reason I am asking is that your
> solution
> >> concept really did not
> >> >address anything of any significance at
> all.
> >> But I am willing to
> >> >accept that your concept of what the
> problems
> >> are is different from
> >> >mine. Therefore it is important to have a
> >> glimpse of your version,
> >> >wouldn't you agree? And once we do, we
> could
> >> weigh if your analysis
> >> >is sound, to be persuaded to it or reject
> it.
> >> >
> >> > > >You will also make a very good
> politician.
> > > > >You know how to engineer a reply by
> tempting
> >> people.
> >> >
> >> >*** Even though you present it as a sly and
> >> deceitful quality, an
> >> >ability to communicate and find common
> ground
> >> to solve common
> >> >problems ought NOT to be
> >> >treated like you are doing. That is an
> >> unfortunate attitude, no doubt
> >> >born of the pervasive desi-condition in
> which
> >> politicians remain
> >> >forever unaccountable, leaving even
> otherwise
> >> intelligent folks, like
> >> >yourself, with a sense of abject
> resignation.
> >> >
> >> >But it CAN be changed you know? May not be
> in
> >> India in the
> >> >foreseeable future. But an Assam, freed
> from
> >> the shackles of the
> >> >dysfunctional Indian system has every
> >> opportunity to be rid of it.
> >> >
> >> >cm
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
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