**** As always, never a direct answer to a direct
question.
There are many groups of people who are disaffected -
not just the MILITANTS.
The biggest disaffected lot, in my opinion, are those
that CONSTANTLY got the wrong end of militants in the
last 15 years. Like those that could not open
businesses because of the violence. Those that could
not attract investors into the state. Those that could
not get jobs in companies because they would not put
more money in Assam. The government whose sole focus
remained battling the militants. There were real
energies expended in trying to address the militant
issue by many people and in trying to work DESPITE it.
In a moribund situation where there is no alternative,
this question does not arise. But there were
alternatives in the last 15 years in many parts of
India. Perhaps you did not notice it or chose not to.
The progress in India (many parts of it) in the last
15 years is REAL. Whereever there is social stability
in India, leaps have been made. Assam (and the NE)
were caught in the vortex of violence and it has been
mentioned time and again how that has contributed - in
the last 15 years - to the lack of development.
Let's be honest about things and not try to fib. If
you do want to look at a problem in its entirety, you
do need to address this question. And NOT lay the
accusing eye on the one raising it. Doing so is
avoiding an honest approach to analyzing the
situation.
The question still remains - how much damage HAVE the
militants done to the people of Assam in the last 15
years!
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Point c has not been debated much.
> >
> >The question is simple - Even given the
> dysfunctional
> >nature of Indian governance, what could potentially
> >have been the economic growth in Assam IF we did
> not
> >have problem c.
>
>
>
> *** Nice try.
>
> A: Attempt to put the blame on the disaffected for
> BEING
> disaffected and reacting.
>
> B: Speculate on what could have been, if only the
> disaffected had
> only chosen to take it lying down ?
>
> And if we are to indulge in SPECULATING, why should
> we limit
> ourselves to the one Rajib Das would have us
> speculate on?
>
>
> >You have already stated - and I am sure most people
> >would have accepted - point a. Most would also
> accept
> >point b and RB did try to elucidate it in some of
> his
> >e-mails.
>
>
> *** WHO are the most people? Assam Netters? People
> of Assam? People of India?
> GoI, GoA?
>
> And those who would accept it, what have they done
> about it? It did
> not appear yesterday, on my arguments presented to
> Mayur you know?
> What have we seen over the quarter century?
>
> And having seen what we have, why should anyone
> speculate on the
> great things happening to Assam, ONLY if the
> insurgency had NOT
> appeared on the scene?
>
> Is it believable ?
>
>
> > RB did try to elucidate
>
> *** RB did not elucidate ANYTHING. His verdicts are
> contrived to
> BLAME Assam, to hold it guilty, as a JUSTIFICATION
> for his support of
> India's claim to Assam and against Assam's
> sovereignty aspirations,
> in pursuit of protecting his own kinds' lifestyles,
> obtained from and
> sustained by the dysfunctional Indian state.
>
> And that is just on one point.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10:49 AM -0800 11/21/05, Rajib Das wrote:
> >I would personally define the problems as mentioned
> >above.
> >
> >A SITUATION warrants an outlining of PROBLEMS. One
> can
> >say the SITUATION is that the aspirations of the
> >people of NE have not been met.
> >
> >The primary problems could be, by and large, those
> >mentioned by RB.
> >
> >These problems could have arisen BECAUSE of:
> >
> >a. "Dysfunctional" Indian government
> >b. "Dysfunctional" GOA
> >c. The depradations of the liberation armies in the
> NE
> >
> >You have already stated - and I am sure most people
> >would have accepted - point a. Most would also
> accept
> >point b and RB did try to elucidate it in some of
> his
> >e-mails.
> >
> >I guess most would also agree that there are
> degrees
> >of "dysfunctionality".
> >
> >Point c has not been debated much.
> >
> >The question is simple - Even given the
> dysfunctional
> >nature of Indian governance, what could potentially
> >have been the economic growth in Assam IF we did
> not
> >have problem c.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mayur:
> >>
> >> You took the easy road of following Rajen. I was
> >> hoping you would do
> >> a whole lot better. But as long as you did, and
> >> assuming that is the
> >> best we have to go with for the moment, let us
> look
> >> at Rajen's, and
> >> now yours too, problem statement:
> >>
> >> 1) The North East India is under developed
> compared
> >> to the rest of
> >> the country and compared to its natural
> resources.
> >> Within the North
> >> East, Assam is even lagging behind in
> development
> >> compared to the
> >> other states in the North East.
> >> 2) Compared to the rest of the country, the
> Assam
> >> has the problem of
> >> heaviest infiltration of illegal immigration
> which
> >> has been going one
> >> since 1930s.
> >> 3) Compared to the rest of the country, North
> East
> >> has the highest
> >> level of Corruption. Assam may be the worst.
> >>
> >>
> >> *** First off, they are not problem statements.
> They
> >> are descriptions
> >> of SYMPTOMS, arising out of certain PROBLEMS
> which
> >> would require
> >> fixing to make Assam the state of your ideals.
> >>
> >> Therefore, you all still need to find what the
> >> PROBLEMs are, and how
> >> your solution concept does or is expected to
> address
> >> the problems.
> >>
> >> You can take one issue at a time. And take your
> >> time. I will be
> >> looking forward to learning a whole lot.
> >>
> >> Best.
> >>
> >> cm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 5:33 AM -0800 11/21/05, mayur bora wrote:
> >> >Mahanta-da, by and large I agree with
> Rajen-da's
> >> list
> >> >of problems plaguing Assam.
> > > >
> >> >Mayur
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Let me try to help:
> >> >> We have these problems, in summary:
> >> >> 1) The North East India is under developed
>
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