**** Whoever wrote :"Today also
Sumanta Chaliha and his 'jatiotabadis' are telling the same
thing:"
I fail to see where did I say it is their
sin when I say the above?
I am just showing tne range of Assam
political thinking?
Where is the sin?
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:43
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] DEMOCRACY HARMING
INDIA: LYNGDOH
Who
is talking about Sumanta's sin?
**** Whoever wrote :"Today also
Sumanta Chaliha and his 'jatiotabadis' are telling the same
thing:"
How did Sumanta C get lumped with Tarun Gopgoi, Mamoni Goswami, Mukul
Mahanta and Chandan Mahanta?
>but I did not know that you
are a supporter of his vews on Assam for Assamese.
**** Do you know that now? And if so, how? What did I say for you to
conclude that?
At any event, if Assam is NOt for Assamese, who should it be for?
Biharis, Marwaris, Gujaratis, Punjabis, B'Deshis--who?
At 12:38 AM -0600 12/26/05, Barua25 wrote:
PS: BTW, what is Sumanta's sin? He is a
nephew you know, son of a first cousin? You may not know this yet, but he is
the newly appointed Editor of Dainik Asom. He joins yet another Mahanta of
Namti, Manjit, another son of a first cousin, who also is the Editor of
Asomiya Pratidin. You moderate and wise democratic guys in the middle are
surrounded by this tribe of Pol- Pot wanna-be's and extremists or what
:-)?
He
is like a brother to me, and I respect his multitalents, especially his
contribution to the Assamese language I donot necessarily support
his Assam for Assamese Jatiotabadi writings. It does not matter whether
he is your nephew ort not, (which I did not, and need not, know), but I
did not know that you are a supporter of his vews on Assam
for Assamese. Thanks for letting us know.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Barua25 ;
[email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] DEMOCRACY HARMING INDIA:
LYNGDOH
Merry Christmas Rajen!
May Peace reign on earth!
And thus I start the morning of this auspicious day although
it is gloomy outside in St. Louis with the forecast of a slight chance at
snow.
To set things straight, I did not wish to put you in a spot by
asking for a bearing on your position/s.
I raised the issue only because you picked out a bunch
of names whose views you denigrate with while denying any intent to club
them together, but raising the issue of a VOID in the 'middle'--thus
implying the rest are extremists.
Under the circumstances reasonable people, not to mention
extremists, could suspect you might be a one of the wise ones holding
moderate views for countering the ills of 'democracy' as Lyngdoh sees
them. Your dedication to democratic values, worn not only on your
shirt-sleeves, but other positions in plain sight as well, could not be
missed by any netter but the legally blind. It was therefore a surprise to
see your endorsement of Lyngdoh's 'intellectual' outburst against
'democracy' in India.
I am sure I was not alone in wondering if we are speaking the
same language.
But I shall not harass you any more. You explained things
clearly as mud.
Take care,
c :-)
PS: BTW, what is Sumanta's sin? He is a nephew you know, son
of a first cousin? You may not know this yet, but he is the newly
appointed Editor of Dainik Asom. He joins yet another Mahanta of Namti,
Manjit, another son of a first cousin, who also is the Editor of Asomiya
Pratidin. You moderate and wise democratic guys in the middle are
surrounded by this tribe of Pol- Pot wanna-be's and extremists or
what :-)?
At 12:46 PM -0600 12/24/05, Barua25 wrote:
>Philosophy
is a fascinating subject. I don't denigrate it. But right this instance
we have little use for it in these discussions. "Jwre >puri haat
paalehi" -- time to do something wouldn't you
think?
Philosophy, as well
as history, are important in the fight in order to
know the enemy.
Almost hundred
years ago, Ambika Giri RaiChoudhury also told the same thing: "Jwre puri
haat paalehi, time to do something. Oxom morile amiw morim"
.
In 79 Assam Gono
Andwlon also Assamese said the same thing: "Jwre puri haat paalehi--time
to do something. Oxom morile amiw morim"
Today also Sumanta
Chaliha and his 'jatiotabadis' are telling the same thing: "Jwre
puri haat paalehi-time to do something.Oxom morile amiw morim"
Chandan Mahanta is
also telling the same thing: "Jwre puri haat paalehi--time to do
something"
But unless you know
what is the right thing to do, you will be simply loosing 25
years this way, another 25 years that way.
Communism, as
proposed by the Mahantas, is definitely not the
solution.
Hatred of India, as
proposed by the Mahnats, is not the solution.
Doom for India, as
proposed by the Mahantas, is not the
solution.
This I learnt from
my lessons in philosophy and history.
Quicker you guys
realize that the better.
I don't have
any intention to loose another 25 years spending in arguments on
the wrong debate.
I have better
things to do with people
who donot hate
India,
who are against
Communism,
who are for freedom
of the individual,
who are against
slogans
who want to find
the solution based on rational analysis.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Barua25 ; [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:34
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] DEMOCRACY HARMING INDIA:
LYNGDOH
I am not seeking your predictions here Rajen. Regardless
of the prescience of amateur or even professional seers, they
are at best idle speculations.
Positive change can come only with participation and
involvement of those who know better. In that, my question is where do
you stand with your contributions to the positive changes, which I
gather even if only indirectly, that you too would like to see in
Assam?
And what would those changes be that you would like
to see? How do you see a process for such changes put in place and
moved forward?
Philosophy is a fascinating subject. I don't denigrate it.
But right this instance we have little use for it in these
discussions. "Jwre puri haat paalehi" -- time to do something wouldn't
you think?
c
At 9:51 PM -0600 12/23/05, Barua25 wrote:
In my opinion, the reason why there won't be any major
change in India, in spite how pessimistic or optimistic one feel
about India, is because of the age old characteristics of the
Indians. Indians are too imaginative as opposed to being rational
like the Chinese. We Indians think too
much.
In fact, I
could not find a single event, since the Gupta Empire, that we
Indians did as a nation in the political scene, as a proactive
action other than going by inertia letting things happen as it may
come, each doing Karma being in his/her own station,
letting the chips fall wherever they will. Of course there had
been side actions of the Ahoms, the Rajputs and many others, but
these are foreigners to be absorbed into the black hole of Hinduism
where imagination take control of the real world and make the Indian
blind to see the real world. Even our struggle for independence was,
in my opinion, a war fought out of
inertia.
As one
philosopher puts it
"In the
Indian world there is, so to speak, no object that can be regarded
as real, and firmly defined - none that was not at its first
apprehension perverted by the imagination to the very opposite of
what it presents to an intelligent conscienousness...... Among the
Hindoos, on the contrary - instead of Unity - Diversity is the
fundamental characteristic." - Hegel.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan Mahanta
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:13
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] DEMOCRACY HARMING INDIA:
LYNGDOH
>But before
that there is no doubt India is destined to play a leading
role as an advanced country in the not too distant
>future.
**** I am sure that will please all those who are not
in the receiving end of what Lyngdoh rails about and are clamoring
for a seat at the table of world's 'powers'. But for the rest it
is 'eat cake', isn't it? Unfortunately the eat-cake crowd is
growing, not receding. Something tells me it will assert itself
sooner than later. And Assam will be in the thick of it if not in
the forefront.
At 4:23 PM -0500 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chandan
I do not find
anything to disagree with you.I can only hope that Lyngdoh's
thinking will inspire the coming generation to find a way out of
the present morass in our body politic. I do not think it will
happen in our lifetime. Politics is ever unpredictable.
Gorbachov did something unthinkable to Communism.According
to some researchers, India is bound to disingegrate in
course of time. But before that there is no doubt India is
destined to play a leading role as an advanced country in the
not too distant future. I do not think Assam is going to be a
major player in it.
Regards
Bhuban
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