On the one hand :
>This talk of economic deprivation is a slogan and they (the supporters) want to keep that as a slogan (even if there is some truth).
And on the other:
>The
idea is to come up with a set of sensible legitimate and
>rational demands for Assam which ULFA itself cannot raise on
technical >grounds.
In Oxomiya one would say, "dekhak dekhi uti hil gaa,
keturiye bwle' mwkw kha!"
BTW, what is this TECHNICAL thang?
At 5:30 PM -0600 1/23/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
It may the damn English language, but I could not connect the two.
In the first isse, we are talking about ULFA-PCG Camp.
In the respond you cited, that is a non ULFA Camp.
What is the link?
RB
----- Original Message -----From: Chan MahantaTo: Rajen BaruaCc: [email protected]Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:23 PMSubject: Re: [Assam] Well-oiled Assam sits pretty - TelegraphHeh-heh-heh!Does the following ring a bell Rajen?
At 9:55 PM -0500 6/29/05, Barua25 wrote:
>If forces outside the ULFA want to influence the terms of negotiation and get their ideas about what a secondary set of >demands ought to be, they ought to go about forming public opinion on this independently of the ULFA and hope the >organization will echo them in their own political interest.
I agree in principle to this idea. In fact I had been voicing for such a platform for a long time. This we may call the Assam-GOI platform, outside of the ULFA-GOI box (virtually ignoring ULFA). This is a must for the Hobo Diok Assamese whether there is ULFA or not. The idea is to come up with a set of sensible legitimate and rational demands for Assam which ULFA itself cannot raise on technical grounds. For obvious reasons, ULFA cannot (and should not) enter this platform during the negotiation phase for reasons pointed out by you. (It would be incredibly stupid if the leaders of the ULFA were to say we want independence for Assam and, by the way, lets also talk about handing over the rights to oil extraction to the state government.). In fact ULFA should understand that this Assam-GOI platform is going to discuss issues which ULFA cannot on its own discuss or negotiate due to the position they are taking. This way ULFA can achieve something without loosing face. Once GOI has agreed to grant some agreed broad issues to Assam through this Assam-GOI discussions, ULFA can later join the platform activley in finalization of details.
Now the question is what may be a set of such demands. This is not easy that one can just come up with a list. It will need indepth study of Assam's onging problems. I am really surprised that so far there has not been any such platform among the Assamese population for discussion of these problems. Even among the political parties there is no such discussions. Frankly speaking this means that we donot know what we want for Assam short of sovereignty.
In order to quantify what we want and why we want we need to discuss among ourselves, intellectually and rationally, so that we can decide what is in Assam's best interest short of sovereignty and short of trying to throw the Indian system out.
Rajen BaruaAt 4:09 PM -0600 1/23/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>Now ULFA supporters need to do some serious soul searching about how to improve the state's economy
Umesh:
No it does not work that way. Let me speak on behalf of the ULFA supporters since they are shy of speaking out.
This talk of economic deprivation is a slogan and they (the supporters) want to keep that as a slogan (even if there is some truth).That is why they donot like go any further on that.
'The GOI is acting a like a step mother and it is dysfunctional, it cannot rule such big country efficiently ' - that is all they want people to hear.
Now this economic comparison with Gujarat is a forbidden issue."How dare you compare Assam to Gujarat? Don't you know the situation in Assam is quite different. We donot speak Hindi. Do they have so many ethnic groups? Do they have illegal immigrations like Assam? Before yoy try to compare, you better try to know Assam- you Indians."
The fact of the matter is, there are two different positions:
One is that of ULFA and the other is that of ULFA supporters.
ULFA's position is clear: Even if Assam is not different, we want independence. Period.
The problem starts when the ULFA supporters try to justify that 'independence' with some rationales where there may not be any rationales.
One (ULFA) does not need any justification for independence.
The other (ULFA supporters) try to justify while there may not be any justification.
Once this is clear, you will understand better why some news are no news to some.
Does it make sense?.
RB.
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: mc mahant ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Well-oiled Assam sits pretty - Telegraph
Ram-da,
Thats a great bit of news. Now ULFA supporters need to do some serious soul searching about how to improve the state's economy -- maybe by using the Guwahati-Okha (Dwarka) railtrack to peep at how the western most state in India can teach Assamese about business.
It is an open secret that Rajasthan's handicraft , gems and tourist trade has been created solely by Gujaratis who migrated 50 years ago to Jaipur etc. But enterprising Rajasthanis and now Sindhis -- tricked them to learn the business -- and are now equal partners in export -some having branches and offices in as many as 60 countires across the world incl 5th avenue New York, where my cousin works for one of them in gem and jewellry trade.
Assam does need to develop skills -- and not get hung up on oil. How about opening a small refinery with Assamese ability.
Umesh
mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So produce all their need in Gujarat and in the Bay of Bengal and leave Assam sitting pretty!mm
From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Assam Organisation <[email protected]>
Subject: [Assam] Well-oiled Assam sits pretty - Telegraph
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:26:58 -0600
Assam gets Rs. 894 crs compared to Gujarat Rs. 1,131 crs. Output Assam 4.5 mill.tons/year, Gujarat 6.1 mill. tons/yr.
ONGC is producing about 6.1 million tonnes of crude a year from its fields in Gujarat. There is not too much of a difference between the recoverable crude reserves in Assam, which are estimated at 163.68
million tonnes and Gujarat, where the corresponding figure is 173.99 million tonnes.
But,
There is not too much of a difference between the recoverable crude reserves in Assam, which are estimated at 163.68 million tonnes and Gujarat, where the corresponding figure is 173.99 million tonnes. - Telegraph
and
However, the unrest in Assam is a stumbling block in raising the level of oil production. A higher crude output would enable the state to rake in a larger royalty for its development works as well.- Telegraph
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Issue Date: Monday, January 23, 2006
Well-oiled Assam sits pretty
S.P.S. PANNU
New Delhi, Jan. 22: Assam has received annual oil royalty of Rs 894 crore, next only to Gujarat, which took home Rs 1,131 crore during the financial year ended March 31, 2005.
However, disturbed conditions have affected the annual crude output in Assam. The output has remained at 4.5 million tonnes in recent years.
ONGC produces 1.2 million tonnes of crude, while the output of Oil India Ltd (OIL) is higher at 3.2 million tonnes in the state.
ONGC is producing about 6.1 million tonnes of crude a year from its fields in Gujarat. There is not too much of a difference between the recoverable crude reserves in Assam, which are estimated at
163.68 million tonnes and Gujarat, where the corresponding figure is 173.99 million tonnes.However, the unrest in Assam is a stumbling block in raising the level of oil production. A higher crude output would enable the state to rake in a larger royalty for its development works as well.
ONGC chairman Subir Raha hopes to increase the company's crude output to 5 million tonnes in the next three years and is ready to allocate Rs 3,300 crore for exploration and development work in the state. However, this depends largely on the law and order situation in the state, he added.
The recent extortion letter and the subsequent threats by the ULFA to the oil companies do not augur well for the investment climate in the state. "The oil companies will be forced to put their expansion plans on hold if such a situation continues," a senior ONGC official said.
According to recent data compiled by the petroleum ministry, Tamil Nadu figures in the third spot with Rs 102 crore as oil royalty during 2004-05, followed by Andhra Pradesh with Rs 77.25 crore.
Arunachal Pradesh and Tripura figure next on the list with Rs 11 crore and Rs 3 crore, respectively. Interestingly, in the case of Arunachal Pradesh the royalty received in 2003-04 was close to Rs 21 crore and this fell to half the amount in the following year. Assam had received a royalty of Rs 703 crore in 2003-04.
Rajasthan, where Cairn Energy has discovered some small and mid-sized fields recently, has emerged as the third state with 11 million tonnes of recoverable reserves of oil.
Arunachal Pradesh, with 5.21 million tonnes of recoverable reserves, ranks higher than Andhra Pradesh, which has only 4.72 million tonnes in reserves. Nagaland, which has recoverable reserves of
2.69 million tonnes, does not receive any royalty as the companies have not been able to produce any oil due to the civil unrest in the state.
The total onland recoverable reserves of oil in the country have been estimated at 369.56 million tonnes. There are also 32.53 million tonnes of oil off the eastern coast.
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