I defined it earlier. See the crocin story. --- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Define fraudulent. > > But the big question that no Hindu will or can > answer is HOW can a > forced, or fraudulent or coerced conversion stick, > unless the 'jaat > mora' factor, an essentially caste based Hindu > shame, is operative? > What prevents the converted from reverting to her > original state, > once he is explained that she was converted by > fraudulent means, or > deceived, or coerced? > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 7:25 PM -0700 5/24/06, Rajib Das wrote: > >What about fraudulent conversion? > > > >--- Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Mikeda, > >> > >> Another gem from the Oracle of Oxom :-) > >> > >> Rajib > >> > >> --- mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> Rajen Barua's lucid explanation of what never > >> happened-nor will- forced conversion. > >> > >> BJP OUGHT TO BE ASKED: > >> > >> "Shrimanji Hindimey Boliye" > >> > >> mm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> From: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To: Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ram > >> Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,AssamNet > >> <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [Assam] India protests over Pope > >> comments -BBC > >> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 19:56:50 +0100 (BST) > >> > >> > >> Rajen-da wrote: > >> > >> *** And in my opinion telling people that > there is > >> God is the biggest fraud of religion. > >> > >> I think you made your point amply clear. > >> > >> Umesh > >> > >> > >> Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >. Let us know how you feel about a > Theocratic > >> leader - the Pope - trying to teach India about > >> secularism > >> > >> I think in this case, we are giving him the > scope > >> to > >> teach, and that is why he is trying to teach. > Why we > >> need to give that scope. > >> Religious conversion should be a freedom for > >> anybody - aspirin or not- period. > >> India is violating this fundamental human > right. > >> > >> Tell me this. > >> Why we allow political conversion - by > bribing, > >> cheating and false promises, and not religious > >> freedom?. > >> If religion is a way of social life, political > >> parties are also ways of our political life. > >> Why we allow free political conversion and not > >> religious conversion? > >> What exactly is the difference between > religion > >> and > >> politics. > >> Don't tell me that religion involve with God. > >> Is Hinduism is not fraud when we tell people > that > >> God created four castes? > >> Is that true? > >> What God has to do it? > >> And in my opinion telling people that there is > God > >> is the biggest fraud of religion. > >> > >> > >> >Do you think India or any country for that > matter > >> should send its ambassadors to a nation > (Vatican) > >> whose sole purpose is to promote their faith - > and > >> stop other >faiths from flourishing? > >> > >> This is another fraud India is doing. Why in > the > >> hell India is sending an ambassador to Vatican > at > >> all? > >> Who is telling India to send an ambassador at > all? > >> India should > >> have the guts not to send any ambassador to > Vatican. > >> Why India not sending an ambassador to Dalai > Lama's > >> monastaery? > >> But that does not take the responsibility away > >> from > >> India to give freedom for free religious > conversion > >> like political conversion. If we allow fraud in > >> politics, we better allow fraud in religion. > >> RB > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: umesh sharma > >> To: Barua25 ; Ram Sarangapani ; AssamNet > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:35 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Assam] India protests over Pope > >> comments -BBC > >> > >> > >> Rajen-da, > >> > >> You always try to make politically correct > >> statements. Let us know how you feel about a > >> Theocratic leader - the Pope - trying to teach > India > >> about secularism. > >> > >> Don't give us that we should take advice from > >> anyone > >> and everyone -as long it is good.Do you think > India > >> or > >> any country for that matter should send its > >> ambassadors to a nation (Vatican) whose sole > purpose > >> is to promote their faith - and stop other > faiths > >> from > >> flourishing? > > > > >> Umesh > >> > >> Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >The BJP says that it supports legislation > to > >> ban "forced religious conversions", because many > >> Christian >missionaries recruit converts among > the > >> majority Hindu population using financial and > >> educational enticements. > >> I fail to understand what is called a "forced > >> religious conversion" specially by the > Christians. > >> People can be persuaded, people can be bribed, > but > >> people can be forced to convert? What is wrong > in > >> Christians giving financial and educational > >> enticements? Why the Hindus cannot counter with > >> better > >> educational enticement? We discussed this > before. I > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
