rajen da,
can my suggestions be incorporated? do tell me because that
would help in preparation of the future deliberations as regards that topic.
regards
nayan
On 2/24/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chandan: Theser are not meant for individual reply and spend time in side
arguments but to help ypu prepare the final Manin Course and address.
Thanks
Rajen
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* Barua, Rajen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [email protected]
*Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2007 3:57 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Assam] My Take on Why I*********** - III, Trophy or Tool?
R:
>I don't see any serious debate for or against independence from any side
so far. ZERO, ZIPPO.
*** That is because of your and Dilip's admonition to all those chomping
at the bit to come out swinging , to hold their horses, till I am done
saying my piece.
>I would also hope that you not side tract the issue and would not present
more appetizers but will go to >the full course.
*** I will certainly consider that :-).
>that all the Assamese share your views equally.
*** WOW! Come on Rajen. I know I have a big head, but NOT that big :-).
Actually I made that clear at the outset that these are MY views. And, trust
me, I don't speak for anybody else: Not the Oxomiya Jaati, not the whole or
even part of Assam, Not ULFA, not NRAs.
But that is not to suggest there may not be anybody who could be expected
to find common cause with MY views.
>In my opinion, Briefly your full course essay should have the following
contents.
1) Introduction
2) What is the problem?
3) What reforms we need?.
4) Why Independence needed for these reforms?
5) How this Independence can be achieved.?
6) What is needed for success.?
>7) What is the plan?
*** Those are good points.
But I would like to point out a couple of things:
Those who grew up in rural Assam and had some morbid curiosities,
perhaps noticed that when the common vultures descend on
carrion, they don't dig into the feast the moment they land. There
is a hierarchical order in the animal kingdom -- the grunt
vultures must
wait for the Roja Xogun/s ( literally the royal vultures -- with
their
distinctive red appendages around the eyes and the throat--
also called turkey vulture/s) to alight and take the first bites,
usually at the eyes of the carcass.
Or a more contemporary and genteel example would be the feudal
fiefdom
of the HC Judges in India, where an aggrieved grunt-justice must
obtain His Lordship's say-so, before he or she can lodge a
public complaint of wrong-doing.
In assamnet we don't have such hierarchies. Netters are free to
state
their own positions, as they see fit, in any order they wish, at
any
time. They don't need to wait for anybody's blessing.
So, DO :-).
>Each of these topic can be really short and may be just one paragraph,
*
*
*** I would leave that to the discretion of the writer. It is her time and
his dime :-).
>For any statement, there should be a back up support in your pocket so
that you may counter any >questions from the doubters.
*** That of course would be elementary. I for one, never assert something
that I cannot provide a halfway believable explanation for.
>Like when you say, (After the 'andwlon', when* AGP* came to power,* it
did not realize* that unless it radically >reformed the system they would
fall victim to its built-in recipe for failure, of falling into the 'jeyei
lonkaloi jai, xeyei >raabon hoy' trap.) here people like me would question
the phrase in bold, because you are making >statement on Oxom Andwlon which
you did not participate and may not have any clue other than your
>impression from remote.
*** I or you and many in our shoes have long been gone for Assam. If MY
observation is incorrect, or clueless, how would yours be any different,
using the same logic as you use here?
The fact is that, we can observe things critically and draw intelligent
conclusions. My absence from Assam, or yours, does not, in any way, shape or
form, preclude us from observing, analyzing and drawing conclusions.
That simple.
c
At 12:18 PM -0500 2/23/07, Barua, Rajen wrote:
>All the justifications for i**********e , thus far presented and debated
by proponents and opponents alike have been entirely on historical,
cultural, ethnic and >natural right components.
I don't see any serious debate for or against independence from any side
so far. ZERO, ZIPPO.
But I would hold any response and rather will wait for your full course. I
would also hope that you not side tract the issue and would not present more
appetizers but will go to the full course.
BTW your full course seems to have missed a big 'introduction' which
should come before 'why independence', an introduction' which probably you
are taking it for granted that all the Assamese share your views equally.
But that question can wait to see your full course.
In my opinion, Briefly your full course essay should have the following
contents.
1) Introduction
2) What is the problem?
3) What reforms we need?.
4) Why Independence needed for these reforms?
5) How this Independence can be achieved.?
6) What is needed for success.?
7) What is the plan?
Each of these topic can be really short and may be just one paragraph, but
each should be addressed. For any statement, there should be a back up
support in your pocket so that you may counter any questions from the
doubters. Like when you say, (After the 'andwlon', when* AGP* came to
power,* it did not realize* that unless it radically reformed the system
they would fall victim to its built-in recipe for failure, of falling into
the 'jeyei lonkaloi jai, xeyei raabon hoy' trap.) here people like me
would question the phrase in bold, because you are making statement on Oxom
Andwlon which you did not participate and may not have any clue other than
your impression from remote.
Without a full sized report addressing all the issues, the netters
may again get excited to be busy in arguments.
*This is just to help you so that you donot throw any more appetizers with
ifs and but and we donot get into unnecessary arguments but may go to the
meat.*
Thanks
Rajen
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of* Chan Mahanta
*Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2007 9:37 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [Assam] My Take on Why I*********** - III, Trophy or Tool?
My apologies for not getting to the part most of my friends opposed to my
views must be waiting for - Assam's Own Governmental System".
However it is important to set the stage for the main course. So, here I
deal with a very important question about this whole concept of
i**********e or s********y :-):* What is it?* Bangalis might ask, Eta ki?
Khai-na kaane' pore' ( what is it? Do you eat it or wear on your ear?).
*Is i**********e a trophy or is it a tool?*
The answer is that it is both.
And readers might ask--SO?
The reason I decided to raise this question first and answer it is because
of the fact that, thus far, the discourse about Assam's i**********e has
been focused only on the TROPHY part. Neither the proponents of independence
-- the ULFA, its supporters and sympathizers, nor its detractors, have
dealt with the really important component; that it is an essential TOOL,
indispensable means to certain ends.
All the justifications for i**********e , thus far presented and debated
by proponents and opponents alike have been entirely on historical,
cultural, ethnic and natural right components. Not that they are not
relevant or important. They ARE. For most struggles for independence in
recent human history have been fought exactly on these issues.
The TROPHY justifications, of necessity, are intangible and could be
subjective at times and thus become targets of detractors from the trite to
the toxic.
But in case of Assam, I would submit, the TOOL component, the
indispensable means to certain ends is even more important. It is essential
to reform Assam's governance to suit Assam's needs and which is impossible
under India's colonial and medieval system. The fact of the dysfunction of
the Indian system needs no proving. It is there for all to see and
experience.
After the 'andwlon', when AGP came to power, it did not realize that
unless it radically reformed the system they would fall victim to its
built-in recipe for failure, of falling into the 'jeyei lonkaloi jai, xeyei
raabon hoy' trap.
The key here then is to demonstrate HOW to go about doing it.
Next "My Take on Why I********* - IV, Assam's Own Governmental System"
cm
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