<It is intriguing, that Ahmad has NOT followed some in the subcontinent who 
seek to divide their country. Nor does he seek independence for one portion or 
the other because he feels his country's leaders  are useless. Nor does he take 
up arms because the system is broken, and there is malgovernance. 
 
He is able to visualize all the problems, but is able to think positively on 
ways to rebuild his country.
 
There is a big difference between what Ahmad is advocating and what some 
netters may be thinking. Ahmad is for a united, and a truely democratic 
Bangaldesh. This in definitely NOT what some of our esteemed netters have in 
store for India :):) >
subcontinent who seek to divide their country----'coz India already did it for 
them in 1971Nor does he take up arms because the system is broken, and there is 
malgovernance. ------ HisThinking is the first step to corrective action. Armed 
uprisings are one of the means to reform . This is ongoing inside Bangla
to think positively on ways to rebuild his country.-We all shd do that
 
 truely democratic Bangaldesh. This in definitely NOT what some of our------ 
His Thinking has just began. In Oxom it has matured 27+ years
 
We are there--almost!
 
mm
 

 
 



Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:14:54 -0500
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] Thoughts about how well 
ones own Bangla is runningCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Thank you Mukul da for forwarding this article by Ahmad.
 
And C'da, you hit the nail right on the head. Having read the article (several 
times over), I completely agree with you. I too can see the "misgovernment" in 
the Indian context.
 
I am quoting some of the sentences that Ahmad writes. They intrigue me. 
(Highlights mine)
 
>I have spent hours debating, discussing and arguing about the developments in 
>>my country, often told 'why you bother when none of this affects you, when 
>your >opinions would make little difference if at all'. 
>I wondered on the comments yet my brain continues to think, the >love for my 
>motherland is on the rise and is showing no sign of >abating. 
And, quite a few more lines like the above. Ahmad, obviously has a lot of love 
and respect for his country. In spite of his take that his country has given 
him precious little, he still has a great interest and is seeking ways to 
improve the lot of his country.
 
It is intriguing, that Ahmad has NOT followed some in the subcontinent who seek 
to divide their country. Nor does he seek independence for one portion or the 
other because he feels his country's leaders  are useless. Nor does he take up 
arms because the system is broken, and there is malgovernance. 
 
He is able to visualize all the problems, but is able to think positively on 
ways to rebuild his country.
 
There is a big difference between what Ahmad is advocating and what some 
netters may be thinking. Ahmad is for a united, and a truely democratic 
Bangaldesh. This in definitely NOT what some of our esteemed netters have in 
store for India :):) 
 
--Ram
 
 
On 3/20/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


This is a thinking man! Those Netters who read the article carefully, will see 
the image of their own Indian misgovernment reflected here, accurately. He has 
his fingers exactly on the problems, even though the solution proposed, while 
being one of the elements of a series of measures, is not entirely adequate. 
 
Ahmad is right about the party loyalty as a source of the problem. It is the 
same thing as electioneering on party lines and NOT on ISSUES. But it is only 
one of the problems. Another big issue is the effectiveness of the INSTITUTIONS 
of democracy. Yet another is the ability to make the able and the willing to 
participate in their governance. 
 
I highlight some of the points below, because we discussed these too. 
Unfortunately our netters were unwilling to see what stares at them. Perhaps 
this article will sink in a tad bit better :-).

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
At 11:02 PM +0530 3/20/07, mc mahant wrote:
By Talha J Ahmad, UK
 
I have written extensively on the current crisis engulfing my country. I have 
spent many nights and day, many hours of my busy life far away from my 
homeland, I have spent hours debating, discussing and arguing about the 
developments in my country, often told 'why you bother when none of this 
affects you, when your opinions would make little difference if at all'. I 
wondered on the comments yet my brain continues to think, the love for my 
motherland is on the rise and is showing no sign of abating. I wondered about 
the past of my country, present and the future. I wondered of the patriotism of 
my leaders, political and otherwise, I wonder even now of the patriotism and 
the genuine motives of the current government, I wonder of the extraordinary 
remarks of our head of Armed forces. My wondering comes to no end, it continues 
without an end on the horizon. But why do I wonder? I pondered on possible 
answers to my paradox, but found none credible. However, I guess I can 
confidently say all these wondering of my mind is a process instigated by my 
feeling and concerns for my country, a country that has not given me much, but 
I still feel indebted to. It is my love and affection for my country, my 
genuine desire to see her flourish with all her children, my firm belief on her 
potential that keeps telling me to wonder further and as part of that process I 
seek to speculate on some ideas. The turn of 20th century has been marked by 
freedom movement, wanting to be free from repressions, colonization. People 
wanted to be free to speak, to earn and to work. Freedom movement led us to 
have new states with new political culture. 
The triumph of the last century however was the end of love for dictatorship 
and the rising of a new era for democracy. Democracy seemed to have offered 
hope to bring about social justice and economic freedom. Democracy has shown us 
sign of empowering people and giving all citizens a way of being their own 
master, the master of owns destiny. 
But what has democracy really earned us? Or have we got the right kind of 
democracy? Our nation for instance paid heavily for democracy, from the days of 
East Pakistan to present, many hundreds of thousands of people marched at 
different times to ensure democracy prospers in our land. People were made 
hopeful; every one expected a better life. It was the prospect of democracy 
that leads us to the bitter struggle for freedom, the war of independence; we 
earned independence only to march again to slay the leaders of that 
independence. We hoped of economic development, the betterment of education, 
life standard, justice and equality, we have achieved some progress but we 
cannot certainly say that we would have not achieved these prosperity without 
all the bloods that we had to spare. 

We marched, we fought, and we sacrificed to achieve economic freedom, social 
justice and equality in a country where we all would be equal participants. We 
hoped that in our country we would have no masters; people in power would be 
accountable. We rebelled against dictators because we thought they were not 
accountable to us. But democracy does not seem to have offered us 
accountability either.
Our current government for example, they are said to be good, but how do we 
hold them accountable? How would people seek to redress any wrongdoing 
committed by current government? We have no true accountability. Only might and 
might alone seem to have its way in terms of accountability, but not people. 
Ordinary man and women do not seem to have the power to hold social elites 
accountable. But this presents us with a dilemma. We have to have government, 
we have to have some kind of people's participation in the governance of our 
country, and we must have some means to hold our governments accountable. But 
how? In lands of England, the Birth place of modern parliamentary democracy, 
there are disaffections, the parliament elections are at times attended by as 
low as only 37% of the population. Famous names with huge reputation in 
politics raising their concern regarding accountability. 
A former cabinet minister went as far as saying the current parliamentary 
system is not capable of holding the executive accountable, and she has decided 
to stand down as an MP from her party in order to campaign for a change, for a 
better, more representative and accountable system. If that is the condition of 
democracy in the land of where it was born, I think we can get a pretty good 
idea as to where we stand. Our MPs are like our lords, they are the king, 
queen, whatever one may wish to think. Our ministers are the most powerful of 
people so much so that they can get away with whatever they wish, so it seems. 
But how we change such situation? 
Dr. Yunus and many others seem to think that corruption is the culprit and good 
people entering politics may be the answer. Dr. Yunus himself decided to put 
his reputation and hard earned celebrity status on the line. He will form a new 
political party that will raise the hopes and aspiration of our nation. But he 
will be joining a system that has failed us, there is nothing to suggest that 
it was not systems fault too that we ended up with 'bad' politicians. So I 
wonder why a Yunus factor should make me feel good. I do not want to think that 
one man can change my country, I do not believe in super human. I would like to 
think it is not just a few people who are the problem; I would like to think 
that there is something with system too. 
We have a very large number of educated people now, working in good jobs. Yet 
many struggling to find an appropriate job. We now have a new generation of 
middle class and affluent people. We no longer see the generation of trade 
unionists, nor do we see the peculiar scenes of student politics. The politics 
of fighting to take control of universities seem to have lessened to some 
extent. The trend among the youths no longer is as strong towards joining 
politics as it used to be. And that in some way is a bad sign. And I think 
therein lies the first problem. Increasing economic sophistication made our 
societies complex. The advancement in technology made our world a global 
village. But that means our affairs now have more factors in it, our affairs 
now involve a much wider ecosystem and not just us. Bangladesh is part of the 
global community, and our problems needs to be thought from global perspective 
too, which obviously means our affairs are now more complex and requires much 
sophisticated solutions. Our thinking however has not sophisticated; 
politically we are now less mature and less sophisticated. Our politics remain 
the same in terms of its norms and fundamental roles. A complex society 
requires extraordinary citizens who have intellectual sophistication, citizens 
need to be more aware and better knowledgeable of situations, but that has not 
happened to our new generation that has grown into the mainstream society now. 
So what we need is a social class who command the society with understanding 
and clear vision. We need a new kind of social movement that seek to 
re-energize our citizens by making them intellectually sharper, more demanding 
and sophisticate. We need social movement to instill in our citizens patriotism 
and give them a common vision of our future. 

Of course it is not enough to have a new social movement that will create a new 
class of citizens who will be intellectually rich, politically aware and 
sophisticated in their thinking. We need political forces and platforms that 
will make good use of this new class.
We need political platform and political leaderships who understand and conform 
to the desire of the people and rise to the challenge of building a new 
society. But it is probably now fair to say that the current parliamentary, 
party political system has failed. It is not so evident because the failure is 
covered by other issues such as corruption and the style of governance. 
But why do we have corruption? Corruption is merely the symptom of a bigger, 
much wider failure. An effective government which is accountable to its 
citizens cannot be corrupt, it is not possible. So if government or people 
within government become corrupt and the system cannot stop it, it is the 
systems fault and not those who actually are corrupt. The accountability issues 
is not just a big issue in our country, it is an issue all over the world now. 
UK, USA and most western countries have the problem too. 
Current prevailing system of governance is that of the cabinet who are elected 
along the party political line. Political arguments are presented along the 
party identity. Loyalty lies to the party. Because of the party system which 
has strong disciplinary force that seeks to suppress certain views and promote 
certain others it is difficult to have true accountability. Largest party in 
government occupies the position of power, when the other parties attack the 
government, the whole party behind the government stand in defense. As long as 
the party remains largest, there is no way we can hold the government 
accountable. Some times, even all the major parties have no significant 
difference between them, who should people choose in those circumstances? Due 
to the existence of political parties, once again new initiatives and thinking 
cannot take root. It is not a level playing field, yet the whole essence of 
democracy is that all citizens should have equal opportunities. I therefore 
intend to resolve that we need to fight to break the party system; we need a 
new kind of politics in which citizens participate freely without party 
loyalty. We should have one broad vision to unite us that is our patriotism and 
our desire to form a better society. Apart from that we should all come to play 
with ideas to tackle our social issues. If we can truly demolish the party 
controls we can have an energize population where people will make their case, 
articulate their ideas and in the end passionate people with articulated ideas 
will be charged with responsibility to govern. We will have true democracy, we 
will have genuine accountability. Of course, some would say that this is an 
unworkable system; I would argue we cannot be so sure. Of course we need some 
kind of organization. But that organization does not have to be along the party 
lines. Our local meeting places, auditoriums, libraries and social clubs could 
be the place to debate. A new consensus will emerge. We can have our civil 
society to guide the nation in its argument. We could have our academics, 
entrepreneurs and others to influence and inform debates through their 
participation. But that will mark a new kind of politics which will have no 
place for dynasty, no room for one man dominance and no room for corruption. No 
one will be strong enough to have it all, and no body will be too weak to have 
a say. Such society would be a genuinely democratic society where social 
justice and equality will thrive, human dignity shall flourish 
 




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