Excellent points raised Chitta. I am sure C'da will come at y'all (as we say in Texas) with guns a-blazin.
There is one slight correction that is needed ****But, I have often said that if the ulfa or some other group was really, really fighting for a cause, and with all sincerity, I would be the first one to at least give them the respect they deserve (even if I do not agree with their cause).* ** That part is mine, not C'da. But one would wish C'da would also something like that - am not holding my breath, though. --Ram da On 5/16/07, chittaranjan pathak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mahanta da Salute Jyatirmay posed some questions-: >- Why do they reside in a foreign country, the population of which is creating economic and social disorder in our state? >- Why don't they fight the Indian Army but hide in their holes when confronted? Why do human rights become a big issue when their members are killed and not when innocents are getting maimed and killed by their bomb attacks at public places? >- Why do they plant bombs in public places and kill innocent people? >- They seek whereabouts of missing ULFA members, what about all the people they have killed. Are they going to give the reasons? You first did your patented qualitative analysis of these questions to classify them as dumb, dumber and dumbest. But let me assure you, many people in Assam are asking these seemingly dumb questions. While trying to work out intelligent responses to these dumb questions, you came out with not dumb; but some very disgusting explanations. And in the process you: Justified ULFA's extortion as a form of TAXATION Endorsed the hobnobbing with ISI and BDesh Jehadis as a STRATEGIC ALLAINCE Defended the killing of children and civilians as a modus operandi of the CONFLICT. Can we go back to your intelligent responses to these dumb questions one by one? TAXATION Try explaining this taxation scheme to those belonging to the samples I have given below. I am just limiting to few-with little effort I can post to you some copies of extortion notices (sorry tax advices) also. 1) This guy from humble background from Abhayapuri by grace of reservation/education in an engineering college gets a job in Public sector (OIL-Duliajan). Settles down, gets married and commits his first mistake of family life-taking an easy PSU provided loan buys a brand new Maruti 800 (it was late eighties). The happiness was short lived-the new car was whisked away never to be seen again for Xongothon activities. Served him right for being materialistic!! 2) Try explaining this taxation to tea tribes who have to resort to strike every year for timely payment of few thousands of rupees as Puja bonus where as their employers have to pay millions of rupees to these outfits. By the way as you can see-the polarization is complete now. These guys will rip you apart if you talk of independence and taxation. There is no solidarity-leave alone on the ULFA front but also on the army atrocities on innocent people as long as people dying are from the other side of the fence. 3) Or to the GMC trained Assamese government doctor posted in Diphu donating part of his monthly salary to UPDS coffer. 4) Or to this Assamese teacher in NC Hills (few of the last remaining breed-will be forced to rush to plain as soon as Dimaraji is claimed) who is visited by Hindi speaking DHD cadres every month. 5) Or to those contractors who still dare to do some theeka thukali in Bodoland. By the way is there any rare instance of this taxed money being used for a purpose like monetary help to those innocent people killed by armed forces in the name of ULFA hunting? Do you know of any instances? STRATEGIC ALLINACE Mahanta da –you gave a good justification why some of the ULFA leaders are holed up in BDesh. Strategic reason-good reasoning! Ram da unnecessarily lambasted you on this. Can I ask you a personal question? How far will you go on endorsing such spineless strategic alliance where the voice of the protagonist gets muffled by those pulling the strings? And if tomorrow they take this BDesh/ISI aided anti-India stance to extreme and declare that they would like to see Assam as an independent IRA (Islamic Republic of Assam) asking a segment of squabbling people forgo their religious independence for the sake of national independence of Assam. Will you still support them and endorse this as a "strategic shift". Or you have set some limit up to which you will go on supporting ULFA's strategic alliance and then no further. No it is not a trap question for you. May be your personal response will give us an indication of importance the proponents place on various binding identities on which they seek to hold together the people in an independent nation. On my part personally I would welcome such declaration like IRA-it will at least remove some ambiguity about what kind of nation ULFA wants. Secular is no different from what we have now. BDesh sheltered and ISI supported (no first hand info-just what I read from newspaper) ULFA can not afford to declare Assam as a Hindu nation. And as it stands Islam is the most widely practiced religion in Assam if you place it against the fragmented composite Hinduism practiced in Assam. From what I sense from your posts, religion is not much of an issue for some of the broad minded people. Can we do away with this Assamese language bit also and adopt an international language like Bengali or English? I will wait for your response on this. CONFLICT Your explanation of violent CONFLICT was amusing. 18 year old boy strapping bomb on motorbike to kill himself (accidentally-no official ULFA human bomb till now) and a sixty year old is your idea of conflict. And who are the victims of this VIOLENT CONFLICT? The children of Dhemaji and Tinsukiya Bihari!!. "We dare not go near Indian army, so lets kill the poor laborers" is that the logic of this violent CONFLICT ULFA is waging? Lastly I will just touch two of your points ****But, I have often said that if the ulfa or some other group was really, really fighting for a cause, and with all sincerity, I would be the first one to at least give them the respect they deserve (even if I do not agree with their cause).* Mahanta da-respect , agreement, disagreement pisor kotha. What is the cause-independent Assam? Have they shown sincerity to the cause by removing the abstractness around the geographical limit of the entity they are fighting for? Have they shown the sincerity to the cause by spelling out how their independent Asom fits in with Bodoland and Kamatapur of their teen patti mates of Bhutan camps (KLO and NDFB)? Have they shown their guts by saying any thing on issues like Bangladeshi infiltration, balkanization of Assam in the name of territorial councils, or humiliation of Assamese national institution like AXX in Brahmaputa valley itself? Or we should believe that ULFA will spell out its policies on all these after the independence is gained. And till then we should give the respect they deserve for the cause they are fighting?? But given their martyrdom to surrender ratio, what is the guarantee that those who are waging this so called struggle will not make a perfect Volta face tomorrow? **** Surely YOUR support or for that matter of others in your camp is NOT what ULFA has been surviving all these decades. Obviously it is from the support of those who you do not see or prefer not to recognize when you see them. Thus your definition of ULFA's * *'sincerity' is quite irrelevant to the resolution of the conflict. IF you and others are SEEKING a resolution to the conflict, then the question would be WHAT are you contributing to its resolution?* Why Mahanta Da –can I ask? Just because Ram da and his camp members are net savvy you feel they would be far removed from ground realities of Assam. If you half Ram da's age-may be you will have thousands who have access to net who are based outside Assam but whose parents , brothers, cousins are based in Assam. The guy may be in Delhi but his brother may be a sympathizer or victim of ULFA. JB college/JEC trained, OIL mentored guy may be in Doha earning in dollars (and reading assamnet post during lunch breaks), but his parents in Sivsagar may be paying the extortion amount (luxury tax as you may like to say). Things have really changed. Cyber connectivity does not mean loss of connectivity from Assam. And for recent immigrants like us-ami jihetu puliye pukhai utha di aha nai-what we think is not necessarily what we see or surf but what our friends and relatives and cousins are undergoing in Assam. But things are different for people like you who seem to be living in a time wrap. I don't blame you. You left Assam when Bihu ,Durga Puja and Tithis were the only occasions celebrated in Assam. By the time we left in late nineties-Baisagu, Chilaria Divx, Me-dam-me-phi, Ali-ai ligang were the in things. And now the latest-have you heard what they call -Besama? Reply dibo dei!!!! 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