Rajen-da,

Good to get your response. Now about facts - would you not agree that most 
Hindus hail Krishna as one of the Hindu heroes and believe that he lived in 
India thousands of years back --- I wanted to put that on Wikipedia page of 
Krishna - and they asked for facts --  what do you expect me to do? I believe 
wiki is a good example of people over the globe trying to have "sameness" - 
even here there is bias.

Second, on Jesus's wiki page I added a comment that many Indians believe that 
Jesus came to learn his skills in India (and I added a BBC report on that with 
weblink) and that was deleted - saying this is no research evidence -- for 
Indian news on Indian  culture even an obscure reference (with no weblink) in 
any newspaer article in remote India is considered okay by its editors -- 
incidently for Jesus they have stopped anyone from editing the page. Anyone is 
free to write anything about Krshna , Ram etc -- thats free for all.

whats that to do with facts? Thats plain bias.

Umesh

Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:       Umesh:
 What you are saying is  right.
 The West has a Eurocentric view of  the world. They claim that the basic 
foundation of the Western  Civilization, especially on science, is mainly based 
on  Greek civilization. They even donot like to give proper credit to the  
Indian and Chinese contribution in mathetics and other science. I would say, 
the  West is still in the Dark Age. However, they have a point. Indians 
basically  donot have any record of what they did. If you want to counter the 
present  Eurocentric view, the best (and only way) is to debate will SOLID 
facts and  figures and not with rhetoric.
 If you have any specific issue, I  would be glad to discus.
 Rajenda   
    ----- Original Message ----- 
   From:    umesh    sharma 
   To: [email protected] 
   Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 7:04    PM
   Subject: [Assam] Indian reality versus    Western mythology
   

Some days back a student of Indian origin born and raised in US    was 
surprised to learn that India had a glorious history - he hardly believed    me 
though.

  And it did not surprise me since I have come to    realize that every 
civilization wants to promote itself as the best - Greek    and Roman 
civilization are promoted as ideals (closely followed by Egyptian    one) -- 
Indian and Chinese ones are lesser ones. 

Greek Toga costume    parties are common features of Western univs just like 
Indian kurta, dhoti are    picking up in Indian college fashion shows.


However, the problem is    that Western historians/scholars of non Western 
spheres call themselves (and    each other) as the world's foremost/only 
reliable experts on their chosen area    of expertise - namely hows and whys of 
other civilization. Most believe (I    believe) that those in non-western 
world/developing world are too    naive/unscientific/non-modern/non-rational to 
understand and appreciate the    distinction between good and bad; and right 
and wrong.

I believe a lay    westerner is more tolerant of others' views than these 
experts (whose    reputation and even careers depend on promoting what they 
have always held as    true).

I just created a wikipedia page called Hindu Reality -speaking    against this 
tendency (I'm sure someone will come along and remove my    arguments).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_reality  - I just    checked --someone has 
deleted the page itself.

Wiki seems to be about    might is right - 

Any    comments?

Umesh






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