Good that you admitted that you are eating g** . Never thought that the flag bearer of DEMOKRASY will admit so easily of eating g**
>>India's pretensions to >>democracy not only does not improve but continues >>to spiral downwards >>over time. Heh-Heh ... coming from the flag bearer of DEMOKRASY who admits eating .... >>One would have thought that this crowd of the desi-knowledge-brigade would be a cut above that. >>But I understand why they can't. All they can imagine is to emulate >>what they decry in others. The difference is ... Indian knowledge brigaed does not go advising others ... unlike US knowledge brigade who go advising others while they themself eat ...... > >So what, if US hob-nobs with Military Ruled Pakistan, > So what, if US promoted Talibans to counter Soviet >(and now fighting the same Talibans !), so what if US >turned a blind eye to Tienman Square ..... all while >waving a flag of DEMOKRASY ...... >>**** That is a terrific defense! >>Only problem is, it smacks of the ancient Oxomiya scatological >>proverb that asks " Moi g* khaale toi-w khaabi neki?" ( If I eat s**t, would you too?) >>One would have thought that this crowd of the desi-knowledge-brigade would be a cut above that. >>But I understand why they can't. All they can imagine is to emulate >>what they decry in others. Little wonder why >>India's pretensions to >>democracy not only does not improve but continues >>to spiral downwards >>over time. At 7:29 AM -0700 10/4/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: > Ram-da, > >Bottomline is your view does not count > >So what, if US hob-nobs with Military Ruled Pakistan, > So what, if US promoted Talibans to counter Soviet >(and now fighting the same Talibans !), so what if US >turned a blind eye to Tienman Square ..... all while >waving a flag of DEMOKRASY ...... > > > > >>>Heh-heh! > >>>**** That was one heck of a JUMPING to CONCLUSIONS >you undertook Ram. > >>>Did *I* suggest or even IMPLY that India ought to >have cut-off >diplomatic relations? > > >>>What I was pointing to was a far more HYPOCRITICAL >stance: > >>Government of India has decided to provide all >assistance to Myanmar >>Army, as the neighbouring country was willing to help >India. >>Significantly, Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutta had >last month paid a >>quiet visit to Myanmar to discuss the demand for >weapons. He briefed >>the meeting about the outcome of his visit. > > >**** But I understand why my post struck that raw >nerve again :-). > > >>Yes, India is a democracy, > >**** Yes indeed, desi-demokratic that is, where >ordinary meanings of >these terms like democracy, secularism and the like do >not apply. > > >> and it has known of Burma's dictatorship for >decades. It has also >>known of the Ayotollas in Tehran, the >commies in >China, and of >>Fidel in Cuba. What about Pakistan, where, one would >think, most >>would >love India wiped out. And what about >Bangladesh, which is not >>very India friendly? > > >**** The difference you avoided acknowledging and >addressing, again, lies with: > > >>Government of India has decided to provide all >assistance to Myanmar >>Army, as the neighbouring country was willing to help >India. >>Significantly, Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutta had >last month paid a >>quiet visit to Myanmar to discuss the demand for >weapons. He briefed >>the meeting about the outcome of his visit. > > > >> "if you are not with us, then you must be against >us" > >*** Nice try! > > > >c-da > > > > > >At 7:48 AM -0600 10/4/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >> >****What leaves me curious about is if GoI was >aware of Burma's >>military >dictatorship's activities spanning decades, >as relates to >>its people's democratic >aspirations, and how it fit >with India's >>own dedication to democracy? >> >>C'da, just couldn't resist. Yes, India is a >democracy, and it has >>known of Burma's dictatorship for decades. It has >also known of >>the Ayotollas in Tehran, the commies in China, and of >Fidel in Cuba. >>What about Pakistan, where, one would think, most >would love India >>wiped out. And what about Bangladesh, which is not >very India >>friendly? >> >>Do you suggest that India severe all ties with such >countries? After >>all, there are people in all these countries seeking >democratic >>aspirations. >> >>The US and every other democratic country have always >had >>relationships (at least tolerated) with countries >that really do not >>hold the same values. What about the US and >Venezuela? Should the US >>severe that relationship, because there too millions >seek democratic >>aspirations.? >> >>Like, every other democratic country, India is no >different. It can, >>and should, maintain relationships with other >countries (even the >>not friendly ones or those run by dictators) at >different levels. >>I am surprised, you seem to be saying "if you are not >with us, then >>you must be against us" :) >> >>--Ram >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On 10/4/07, Chan Mahanta >><<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at >charter.net> wrote: >> >>Greetings Goswami. It is heartwarming to see >Kharkhowa xangbadik >>xokolor utkontha ( Assamese journalist's concerns) >about the >>Burmese people's struggles for democratic rights. >> >> >> >> >>And my Kharkhowa heart glows with pride with the >powerful stance >>you all took in support of democratic values by >urging ---- >> >> >>">---- the Government of India to create diplomatic >pressure on the >>Burmese junta to refrain from >repressive measures >against those >>carrying on the democracy movement in the country." >> >> >>That ought to leave no doubt on how committed you all >are to >>democratic values. >> >> >> >> >>More so in view of the following that appeared in >your paper, the >>AT, obviously with a sense of relish >>( note the highlighted parts) some months back: >> >> >> >> >> >><<http://www.assamtribune.com/>http://www.assamtribune.com/><http://www.assamtribune.com/> > >>http://www.assamtribune.com/ 6 October 2006 >>From Our Spl Correspondent >> NEW DELHI, Oct 5 - Notwithstanding the setback in >the ULFA peace >>process, the Centre is unwilling to write off the >peace process and >>has held out fresh hope by indicating that it was >still willing to >>stop Army operations, if the outfit responded >positively. The >>Centre' latest gambit came from National Security >Adviser, MK >>Narayanan, who told newsmen here today that he was >willing to call >>off the Army operations, if ULFA comes for talks. >> >>The NSA was responding to news reports, which quoted >ULFA's >>mouthpiece Freedom as having said that the outfit was >still open to >>finding a 'political solution' to the insurgency in >Asom. >> >>Replying to a query, he said that he was unaware >about ULFA's >>statement. "But, if it is true then it is most >welcome. I will stop >>operation if they come," he added. >> >>The NSA had come to the Ministry of Home Affairs to >take a meeting >>on the internal security. >> >>In the latest issue of its mouthpiece, the ULFA said >it was, "still >>hopeful of a political solution and it would respond >to any such >>efforts initiated by the Centre through the PCG". The >mouthpiece >>said it was confident that the PCG would work for >bringing about a >>"political solution". >> >>ULFA's latest threat to target Congressmen in the >State, as well as >>the sudden end to the peace process has the Centre >thinking. The UPA >>Government at the Centre, which was hoping for a >breakthrough, is >>upset at the breakdown of the peace process. >Politically, the UPA >>may not find much support among its allies, with the >CPI-M already >>stating it wanted the peace process to continue. >> >>The reluctance on part of ULFA to commit in writing, >unabated >>extortions and growing belligerence of the outfit >coupled with stern >>warning from Army and intelligence agencies forced >the Centre to >>call off the suspension of operation on September 24. >Subsequently, >>the PCG also pulled out of the peace process. >> >>The development may be significant, because it comes >at a time when >>the Centre is bracing up to intensify operations >against ULFA and by >>all indications, a coordinated operation with Myanmar >Army may be in >>the offing. >> >>Last evening, as reported today, a high level meeting >chaired by >>Cabinet Secretary, BK Chaturvedi and attended by top >brass of the >>three services, intelligence officials, was held at >South Block to >>take stock of the internal security situation >including Army >>operations in Asom. >> >>Government of India has decided to provide all >assistance to Myanmar >>Army, as the neighbouring country was willing to help >India. >>Significantly, Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutta had >last month paid a >>quiet visit to Myanmar to discuss the demand for >weapons. He briefed >>the meeting about the outcome of his visit. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>****What leaves me curious about is if GoI was aware >of Burma's >>military dictatorship's activities spanning decades, >as relates to > >its people's democratic aspirations, and how it fit >with India's own >>dedication to democracy? And the ATs too? >> >> >>Any ideas? >> >> >>Best. >> >> >>cm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 1:29 PM +0100 10/4/07, ranenkumar goswami wrote: >> >>>Newsmen's support to Burmese cause >>> >>Guwahati, October 4: The Journalists' Forum, Assam on >> >>Thursday urged the Government of India to create >>diplomatic pressure on the Burmese junta to refrain >>from repressive measures against those carrying on >the >> >>democracy movement in the country. >> In a meeting at the Guwahati Press Club with JFA >>president Rupam Baruah in chair, the newsmen's body >>asked the Union Government not to remain silent on >the >>happenings in the neighbouring country and do the >>needful within its powers to facilitate a peaceful >>transition to democracy. >> Extending its whole-hearted support to the >>movement, the Forum demanded that Aung San Suu Kyi, >>the globally recognized pro-democracy leader, be >>immediately released from the prolonged detention she >>is being made to undergo. It deplored the brutal >>killing of protesting citizens including one foreign >>journalist. >> The meeting expressed its solidarity with the >>proposed Global Action Day for Free Burma to be >>observed on October 6. >> The meeting was addressed among others by Dr >>Amalendu Guha, Hemanta Barman, Dr Abdul Mannan, >>Nilamoni Sen Deka, Hiten Mahanta, Nava Thakuria, >>Jayanta Gogoi, Jawaharlal Saha and Satish Tahbildar. >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
