Ramda Check this ... how "functioning democracy, run by people who BELIEVE in it" treats separatists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party This is just one example .... just google and you will get many more examples. But then again ---- " Moi g* khaale toi-w khaabi neki?" :-) > > >What you miss Ram is that INSURGENTS are PEOPLE, > who are driven to armed > uprising, in the pursuit of POLITICAL RIGHTS, which > they are >deprived of > > C'da, > > And what you might be missing is that those killed > by insurgents, are people > too. > Where is the humanity that we seem to all wear on > our sleeves and preach all > the time? These people were also fathers, > mothers, brothers, sisters and children. Were the > Biharis expendable or were > the children of Dhemaji > cannon fodder? > > The other day, you raised the question whether > Sanjoy Ghosh's life was more > valuable than the thousands of insurgents killed? > Well, all life is precious - but more precious ones > are the innocent ones > and innocent here means the countless, everyday > common soft-target people > milling around, going about their own business. > Ghosh is a classic example > of someone who was doing what very few people are > willing to do - helping > the poor and needy in Assam. And of course, who > really cares about him? He > is gone... good riddance. right? > > >That India has remained buried in its effort to > squelch these voices > militarily for over half a century, > >annihilating hundreds of thousands of what it > >calls their very OWN people > > C'da, how would you want the GOI to react when some > of its people take to > murder and > mayhem of innocent people? Treat them with kid > gloves? > > Yes, insurgents also need to be treated fairly and > with decency. But that > ought to be extended the other way too. > > --Ram > > > . > > > > > > On 10/4/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > What you miss Ram is that INSURGENTS are PEOPLE, > who are driven to armed > > uprising, in the pursuit of POLITICAL RIGHTS, > which they are deprived of. > > > > > > In a real, functioning democracy, run by people > who BELIEVE in it, not > > merely wave as a facade at those whose approval > they so seek, there would > > have been ways to find a peaceful solution to such > disaffections. > > > > > > That India has remained buried in its effort to > squelch these voices > > militarily for over half a century, annihilating > hundreds of thousands of > > what it calls their very OWN people , and now with > connivance of a brutal > > military dictatorship in Burma, points to its > fake commitments to real > > democratic values and its intelligentsia's > cluelessness and absence from its > > governance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 10:07 AM -0600 10/4/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > > > >**** Ahhhh! The use of language to deny the > humanity of 'insurgents' , as > > if > > > > >they are NOT people. Not Nagas, not >Shans, not > Manipuris, > > > > >not Oxomiyas---they are just INSURGENTS and so > fair game. > > > > > > > > C'da, > > > > > > > > I doubt if any sane government will just allow > insurgents to do what they > > please - hole up in neighboring countries and blow > up their citizens. To > > that end, India is frequently reminded of the > "humanity" that insurgents > > frequently dole out to Indian citizens in Assam, > Manipur etc. > > > > > > > > You tout the 'just cause' on behalf of > insurgents, of their sacrifices, > > their aspirations etc. > > > > Fair enough. Similarly, India and Indians also > think that their cause is > > just, and that the Indian democracy (at least > thats what they think - even > > if you disagree) is being hijacked, its citizens > killed, and insurgents are > > causing a reign of terror among common citizens in > Assam > > > > > > > > That is why, whatever the causes/aspirations are, > in the end, peace is > > what both sides need to aspire for. > > > > If "peace" is not on the table nothing else > matters. > > > > > > > > --Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > 10/4/07,* Chan Mahanta* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >He is upset that the GOI would reach across the > border to seek the help > > of Burma/Bhutan with the >insurgency problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **** Ahhhh! The use of language to deny the > humanity of 'insurgents' , as > > if they are NOT people. Not Nagas, not Shans, not > Manipuris, not > > Oxomiyas---they are just INSURGENTS and so fair > game. > > > > > === message truncated ===> _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > [email protected] > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
