*** To point to totalitarianism or a controlled economy as the only 
alternative to  what 
             gave rise to Enron or Enron like  results is a false argument.
   
  Actually the argument was quite to the contrary. Totalitarianism ( in the 
form of omipresent Delhi rule) or a controlled economy ( through the hangovers 
of dysfunctional license raj) has produced ills that affect lives in the 
sub-continent that is million times worst that the Enron saga in the US.  India 
rands 126 out of 177 nations in terms of Human Development Index. And this not 
solely an Indian experience.
   
  
 
       **** There has to be a reason. What is it/are they? How will they 
change? WHO will 
             change them? WHEN?
             Those are the questions that affect  Assam, as it does India and 
all it controls.
   
  The reasons are obvious - humans like to improve their quality of life. Who 
will change - you and I. 
   
  When - when we question the relevance of the "dysfunctional set up" and adopt 
more pragmatic set up. A FREE market economy supported by an accountable govt 
enforcing the rule of law is a tool that has produced result in the rest of the 
world.
   
  In the Indian context,  we also need a change of the mindset before we can 
ensure free FREE. Amongst other things this includes the courage of the nation 
to respect rights and sentiments of those who have little faith or trust in the 
system that they consider "dysfunctional" and seek a way to "liberate their 
lives" from the existing set up some consider beneficial for their own selfish 
reasons.
  
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        At 4:26 PM +0000 11/20/07, Malabika Brahma wrote:
  I agree with the above statement about REAL and FREE.     Although there has 
been move about "Free" markets in India, the bureaucracy is still too stifling 
and still promotes/encourages underhand dealings. Until India remedies the 
centrally controlled dysfunctional bureaucratic set up, it will take decades 
for the people reap benefits free market economy or to get any social justice.  


  *** The  'bureaucracy' is only the tip of the iceberg.
  

  

  

  

     Yes, the ENRON saga did happen in a free market economy. But "SOVIET and 
EAST BLOCK saga" or "NO REGULAR ELECTRICITY SAGA in the backwaters of Dhubri 
district and Namti" also happened in controlled economy with ever meddling 
dysfunctional bureaucratic set up.  


  

  *** To point to totalitarianism or a controlled economy as the only 
alternative to  what gave rise to Enron or Enron like  results is a false 
argument.
  

  

  

  The following is a good illustration of that.
  

  

  

  

  
   ENRON saga in the US led to increased pressure from the Feds for corporate 
transparency and accountability, as it should in a country with Free Market 
where the role of the government is primarily to enforce the rule of law.  


  The key phrase here is "as it should".  And if we look at the Indian 
condition, will there be a dearth of what SHOULD have been? Question is WHY do 
they NOT happen? History keeps repeating itself as if it is the ONLY  way.
  

  There has to be a reason. What is it/are they? How will they change? WHO will 
change them? WHEN?
  Those are the questions that affect  Assam, as it does India and all it 
controls.
  

  

  

  >But as market economy grows and if the grip of stifling bureaucracy is 
reduced and REAL FREE ECONOMY takes shape, things are bound to change.  


  

  *** So the hope is that a REAL and FREE ECONOMY is all that is needed to 
deliver India to the promised land and thast it will in due course.
  

  I hope it was merely a slip of the keyboard , and not a well considered 
conclusion  to bank on:-).
  

  
 
  

  

  

  

  

  


     Besides signs of stifling bureaucracy and "deeply faulty systemic and 
institutional structures " (to quota c-da) we encounter another symptom with 
Indian ethos.  On our last visit to India, I had bought hot coffee from Kolkata 
airport. The hot coffee was served in ultra thin plastic cups, which proved to 
be extremely hot to hold. When I protested and asked for an extra cup to lessen 
the impact of burning heat on my poor hands, the sales person displayed the 
least concern.     The emphasis of Indian business is still short-term profit 
with little respect for customer care. I suspect the same applied to the 
current cell phone market in India.     But as market economy grows and if the 
grip of stifling bureaucracy is reduced and REAL FREE ECONOMY takes shape, 
things are bound to change.     At least that's what we have seen in the rest 
of the FREE world.  
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I do not take issue with the proven efficacy of  REAL competition and FREE 
market forces. But the keywords are REAL and FREE. In a land where the 
make-believe is readily accepted in lieu of the real thing by its 
intelligentsia EVEN when the truths are open for all to see and that need to 
tell the world they are no push-overs as far as modernity is involved, the 
nuances of the REAL and the FREE takes on huge importance. One only needs to 
look at the ENRON saga. Are there Enron like goings on in the cellphone 
industry in Assam?  I don't know. But from the comments I heard from users from 
Guahati to Dibrugarh to Namti to Tawang--I have to suspect there is.  
  The fact of Dhubri's or Guahati's or Namti's lack of paved roads, reliable 
electricity or potable water or sanitation systems and the governments' failure 
that it points to ought not to be issues to be forgotten or  explained away as 
mere  ideology rooted failure of governance  and thus implied that it could be 
all remedied by the 'free market gods' is  where the fallacy is.  
  That Indian governance is dysfunctional has little to do with ideological 
hang-ups but everything to do with deeply faulty systemic and institutional 
structures that Indian intelligentsia has neither been aware of nor have been 
willing to tackle.  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 9:07 PM +0000 11/19/07, Malabika Brahma wrote:
  Soon Reliance and others will be forced to improve their service if they want 
to survive and prosper.
    
   But they have achieved to provide at least rudimentary service in 5/6 years 
of operation (in cell phones) which government failed to provide for (take 
electricity) in last 60 years.
  
   My village in Dhubri district does not yet have regular electricity, paved 
roads and clean water supply (we rely on wells) after 60 years but does receive 
NextTel cell phone signals.
  
   People who never had land phone lines had cell phones as the first phone.
  

mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Cellphone Cos are like "Indian IT Miracles".
Each one is a Benami shadow of likes of Eriksson/Siemens/Nokia/Motorola.Even 
screws are imported.- mostly from China. Customs do not hold them for Minutes. 
And they were/are being milked for Upfront+Below the Table n000Crores@ time for 
licensing CeNtrallyat Delhi
Remember Pramod Mahajan's Brother fuming and shooting him dead
-----"You took 5000 crores and did nothing to US?"
Currently there is something bigger happening-all Hush Hush:
Reliance trying to corner huge Spectrum(allowed to be a cOuntry's right by ITU 
rules)and  all the other players crying out loud"You cannot do that".
So they can Cheat the Economy  as they like--Licensed to Kill.

{Compare mine --a few Welding/Sawing machines not released by Kolkata 
Customs"Where is it written--the address of the Party to be Notified?"And of 
course I have to be penalized for Demurrage that longer.As per  Rules. 
Nedfi--Oh they are Busy Developing Look East!!!    }
mm
    
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    Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:50:08 -0600
To: [email protected]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Assam] Indian Cell Phone Myths

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  As an addendum to my previous response on the matter of the quality of 
private  services as in cell-phone, I would be remiss if I did not share what I 
heard during my recent trip to Assam:
  
   *** That service is uniformly bad thruout Assam. And the worst is the 
darling of the private enterprise
  advocates: Reliance; so much so that there was some kind of a 'Bandh' against 
purported Reliance deceit of consumers.
  
  I was loaned a cellphone from a new service provider by a relative, which, 
amazingly worked from my native village at remote Namti, but would not work 
from some of Guahati's  most important localities such as Beltola and Rajgarh.
  
  
  *** Most surprisingly the cell phone service that generally is acknowledged 
to be the most reliable across Assam is that provided by the Indian Govt. 
operated BSNL, but at a cost. Apparently it is the most expensive of cell phone 
services.
  
  
  So much for the conventional wisdom about public vs. private enterprise in 
India, specifically as it relates to cell phone service in Assam.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 5:06 PM +0000 11/18/07, Malabika Brahma wrote:
  Cell phone services are available all over India at a very reasonable rate 
with excellent service, however electricity is not.

This is because cell phone was considered a luxury and hence left to the market 
forces whereas electricity was considered essential and left for the government 
to  provide.

Government always messes up whereas fair  market dynamics does not.

Utpal  
  
 
    
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