> >but I do not see ANY petition demanding quick and >stern actions against those who were involved in thisincident.
**** Just out of curiosity; how is this done? I mean getting QUICK and STERN action ? Should people be picked up and meted summary judgement like it is done for those labeled ULFA, TERRORIST and the like, on the spot, by those who have the authority to do that? If NOT, what are the tools available for the people in India to obtain this? What is the process? Who will do it? When will it happen? What precedents are there to point to as an example? Where? Without an understanding of this process to merely SEEK it in these exchanges is little more than an exercise in futility, in the make believe, isn't it? At 8:52 AM -0800 11/30/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: >Bhaiti > >1) I believe I have expressed it quite clearly what I >am pointing at --- some people's perception that Media >painted Assam in Black ... The arguments and postings >were more focussed on that rather then dignity of a >woman. As I said, I would not have get into this HAD >the criticisms revolved around this topic > >2) The question on Lawyers is relevant because you >asked whether journalists will go to court to help >lawyers. It is your choice that you avoided it. > >3) You might be interested in internet porno sites or >for that matter the bars in Guwahati (as reported by >Sentinal a couple of days back) but trust me, there >are better things to do. > >This has nothing to do with your thinking power, it is >about feeling ...... People seems to be more >concerned about shoving it under the carpet as a >"minor issue" rather then demanding justice. > >There are petitions demanding actions against media >but I do not see ANY petition demanding quick and >stern actions against those who were involved in this >incident. >That, sadly, says all about your "dignity for woman" > > > >>>Chakraborty Da, > >>>Please accept my sincere and unconditional apology >for wasting your valuable >>>time. It was quite unworthy of me to doubt your >contentions regarding the >>>naked portrayal of a woman by some news channels. I >simply do not have any >>>words to argue with your logic. But then you have to >bear with me. I say and >>>do things which my mind and heart says. At times I >even get emotional about >>>things. But then what to do, I am not the >enlightened one like you. Infact >>>the main problem with Assam today is that the >enlightened ones are outside. >>>So we, the unenlightened ones have to cope with >whatever situation comes >>>with our own limited resources (thinking power). >Most of the Assamese people >>>don't even have access to the internet so that they >can mail you and take >>>your opinion before doing something. There is no one >to guide the masses. So >>>we have a corrupt government. We have a state where >nothing is right. Maybe >>>one day you will come and enlighten us too. > >>>By the way CNN IBN apologised today for doing their >duty. This news was >>>published in the Assamese newspaper Asomiya Khabar >today. I think you should >>>take up the matter and show them light. You should >strongly protest before >>>them stating that why should they have to apologise >for doing their duty. > >>>As for the other things you have said about us >lawyers, I would not like to >>>comment upon them now as they are irrelavent in the >context of this issue. >>>Maybe we'll talk about it sometime later because >today the issue involves >>>the dignity of a women. And I am sure, even if you >do not have any sisters >>>or wife or daughter, you must be having a mother. So >next time you you want >>>to see a naked woman. Please visit a Internet porno >site or strip bar in Las >>>Vegas. Not Assam. Our women are not for public >display. We are not yet that >>>forward. And I am proud to be backward in this area. > >>>Regards, >Nayanjyoti Medhi > > > >On Nov 30, 2007 2:25 AM, Krishnendu Chakraborty ><krish_gau at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Nayan, >> >> Once again, I would first like to know the reason >for >> outrage against media ---- is it because the >picture >> depicted Assam in Negative or is it because it >> insulted the woman. From beginning I am seeing the >> outburst for the former reason .... had it been ONLY >> the later reason , I would probably not have taken >up >> my pen (keyboard). >> >> My only concern is people are stooping to a lower >> level of regionalism against humanism. >> >> Coming to your points -- >> >> >>You get me wrong. I am not condemning anyone >> >> You should condemn those who commited the crime and >> those who abeted by not trying to prevent it. >> >> >> >But >> >>showing a picture to a Judge is something else and >> publishing it in a >> >>newspaper is something altogether different. Won't >> you agree? >> >> In democracy, the media plays a vital role in >shaping >> public opinion, in bringing awareness, in keeping >the >> government on its toes. This picture serves all >> these purpose ..... exposing how miserably our >> government failed. Just the way a judge will form >an >> opinion, the public will form an opinion based on >> this >> >> >> >>Do you think that >> >>the other pictures of people beating people were >not >> enough that they had to >> >>publish the picture of that stripped innocent girl >> to pressurize the >> >>government? >> >> >> If the other pictures would have had the same >impact, >> why the outburst that this picture has painted Assam >> in black ? >> >> >> >>>nd this >> >>would not be the first time. And as you have said >> about the PIL. I can >> >>assure you that it won't be able to reverse the >> process of not being able to >> >>control the situation. >> >> Did not expect this from you . ANY criminal >> litigation CANNOT reverse what has happened. If you >> use this example, these criminals should not be put >> through legal process because it will NOT reverse >the >> situation nor should a murderer be put to trial >> because you cannot undo the murder. >> >> >> >>I simply cannot speak for anyone else other than >me. >> But let >> >>me enlighten you that cases are not won because >> there is someone (an >> >>advocate) to represent the villain. Cases are won >> when witnesses do not >> >>falter, when they speak the truth with courage >(they >> have to appear first). >> >>If witnesses do not appear then justice is delayed >> and sometimes denied. >> >> 1) You wanted an assurance from me if the >journalists >> will come up as witness as their moral duty. What I >> pointed is, lawyers DO send their morality to >> vacation when they defend a known criminal. Can you >> deny that ? No. So, if a lawyer does not stick to >> his ethics/morality why do you expect journalists to >> leave their job and work for lawyers ? >> >> 2) Is it false that lawyers manage to extend >> litigations on flimsy grounds --- like a false >medical >> certificate stating his client is sick, or pointing >> some minor typos in the petition etc (I experienced >in >> a civil litigation). Just 2 days back there was a >> report in a Calcutta daily on one Idrish Ali who is >> avoiding his court case claimin he is sick while >> doctors cannot find any problem. Who suggested him >> about such tricks ... sure not some journalist. >> >> >> 3) If a criminal case is as simple as you cited >(cases >> are not won because there is someone (an >>advocate) >> to represent the villain.) why do you think the >> rich and the famous (Sanjay Dutt to Todi) hire the >> best lawyer spending lakhs to defend them. They >> could hire just a small time lawyer fresh out of >> college .... after all it all depends on witness, >> lawyers are mere spectators ! Can you enlighten us ? >> >> >> >>He intends to >> >>act on the advice and has presumably started off >the >> process. >> >> We would wait eagerly to see the outcome but I have >> serious doubts. It is not first time that media >> (Indian/International) has published such photos. >> >> >>but for your information, I also do not volunteer >my >> services. And this >> >>would not be the first time. >> >> I guess you made a typo. >> > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. >Make Yahoo! your homepage. >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > >_______________________________________________ >assam mailing list >[email protected] >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
