Bhaiti
1) I believe I have expressed it quite clearly what I
am pointing at --- some people's perception that Media
painted Assam in Black ... The arguments and postings
were more focussed on that rather then dignity of a
woman. As I said, I would not have get into this HAD
the criticisms revolved around this topic
2) The question on Lawyers is relevant because you
asked whether journalists will go to court to help
lawyers. It is your choice that you avoided it.
3) You might be interested in internet porno sites or
for that matter the bars in Guwahati (as reported by
Sentinal a couple of days back) but trust me, there
are better things to do.
This has nothing to do with your thinking power, it is
about feeling ...... People seems to be more
concerned about shoving it under the carpet as a
"minor issue" rather then demanding justice.
There are petitions demanding actions against media
but I do not see ANY petition demanding quick and
stern actions against those who were involved in this
incident.
That, sadly, says all about your "dignity for woman"
>>Chakraborty Da,
>>Please accept my sincere and unconditional apology
for wasting your valuable
>>time. It was quite unworthy of me to doubt your
contentions regarding the
>>naked portrayal of a woman by some news channels. I
simply do not have any
>>words to argue with your logic. But then you have to
bear with me. I say and
>>do things which my mind and heart says. At times I
even get emotional about
>>things. But then what to do, I am not the
enlightened one like you. Infact
>>the main problem with Assam today is that the
enlightened ones are outside.
>>So we, the unenlightened ones have to cope with
whatever situation comes
>>with our own limited resources (thinking power).
Most of the Assamese people
>>don't even have access to the internet so that they
can mail you and take
>>your opinion before doing something. There is no one
to guide the masses. So
>>we have a corrupt government. We have a state where
nothing is right. Maybe
>>one day you will come and enlighten us too.
>>By the way CNN IBN apologised today for doing their
duty. This news was
>>published in the Assamese newspaper Asomiya Khabar
today. I think you should
>>take up the matter and show them light. You should
strongly protest before
>>them stating that why should they have to apologise
for doing their duty.
>>As for the other things you have said about us
lawyers, I would not like to
>>comment upon them now as they are irrelavent in the
context of this issue.
>>Maybe we'll talk about it sometime later because
today the issue involves
>>the dignity of a women. And I am sure, even if you
do not have any sisters
>>or wife or daughter, you must be having a mother. So
next time you you want
>>to see a naked woman. Please visit a Internet porno
site or strip bar in Las
>>Vegas. Not Assam. Our women are not for public
display. We are not yet that
>>forward. And I am proud to be backward in this area.
>>Regards,
Nayanjyoti Medhi
On Nov 30, 2007 2:25 AM, Krishnendu Chakraborty
<krish_gau at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nayan,
>
> Once again, I would first like to know the reason
for
> outrage against media ---- is it because the
picture
> depicted Assam in Negative or is it because it
> insulted the woman. From beginning I am seeing the
> outburst for the former reason .... had it been ONLY
> the later reason , I would probably not have taken
up
> my pen (keyboard).
>
> My only concern is people are stooping to a lower
> level of regionalism against humanism.
>
> Coming to your points --
>
> >>You get me wrong. I am not condemning anyone
>
> You should condemn those who commited the crime and
> those who abeted by not trying to prevent it.
>
>
> >But
> >>showing a picture to a Judge is something else and
> publishing it in a
> >>newspaper is something altogether different. Won't
> you agree?
>
> In democracy, the media plays a vital role in
shaping
> public opinion, in bringing awareness, in keeping
the
> government on its toes. This picture serves all
> these purpose ..... exposing how miserably our
> government failed. Just the way a judge will form
an
> opinion, the public will form an opinion based on
> this
>
>
> >>Do you think that
> >>the other pictures of people beating people were
not
> enough that they had to
> >>publish the picture of that stripped innocent girl
> to pressurize the
> >>government?
>
>
> If the other pictures would have had the same
impact,
> why the outburst that this picture has painted Assam
> in black ?
>
>
> >>>nd this
> >>would not be the first time. And as you have said
> about the PIL. I can
> >>assure you that it won't be able to reverse the
> process of not being able to
> >>control the situation.
>
> Did not expect this from you . ANY criminal
> litigation CANNOT reverse what has happened. If you
> use this example, these criminals should not be put
> through legal process because it will NOT reverse
the
> situation nor should a murderer be put to trial
> because you cannot undo the murder.
>
>
> >>I simply cannot speak for anyone else other than
me.
> But let
> >>me enlighten you that cases are not won because
> there is someone (an
> >>advocate) to represent the villain. Cases are won
> when witnesses do not
> >>falter, when they speak the truth with courage
(they
> have to appear first).
> >>If witnesses do not appear then justice is delayed
> and sometimes denied.
>
> 1) You wanted an assurance from me if the
journalists
> will come up as witness as their moral duty. What I
> pointed is, lawyers DO send their morality to
> vacation when they defend a known criminal. Can you
> deny that ? No. So, if a lawyer does not stick to
> his ethics/morality why do you expect journalists to
> leave their job and work for lawyers ?
>
> 2) Is it false that lawyers manage to extend
> litigations on flimsy grounds --- like a false
medical
> certificate stating his client is sick, or pointing
> some minor typos in the petition etc (I experienced
in
> a civil litigation). Just 2 days back there was a
> report in a Calcutta daily on one Idrish Ali who is
> avoiding his court case claimin he is sick while
> doctors cannot find any problem. Who suggested him
> about such tricks ... sure not some journalist.
>
>
> 3) If a criminal case is as simple as you cited
(cases
> are not won because there is someone (an >>advocate)
> to represent the villain.) why do you think the
> rich and the famous (Sanjay Dutt to Todi) hire the
> best lawyer spending lakhs to defend them. They
> could hire just a small time lawyer fresh out of
> college .... after all it all depends on witness,
> lawyers are mere spectators ! Can you enlighten us ?
>
>
> >>He intends to
> >>act on the advice and has presumably started off
the
> process.
>
> We would wait eagerly to see the outcome but I have
> serious doubts. It is not first time that media
> (Indian/International) has published such photos.
>
> >>but for your information, I also do not volunteer
my
> services. And this
> >>would not be the first time.
>
> I guess you made a typo.
>
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