Rajen:
I am really not enjoying this. Not one bit.
But you leave me no room to cut you some slack.
What does this mean:
> Why they donot revolt
against the domination of the Hindi-wallas? Why they donot hate
India like the >North East?
or
>Sometime it looks like
South India is more Mainlanland India.
or
>The South seem to be
progressing completely ignoring or in spite of the Hindi belt
North India. Or is >the South gradually taking over the
North?
If all you were interested in was Manipal or its successes
outside India?
Ram is attempting hard to steer the arguments away from your
protestations, knowing full well what you were leading to. And Rajib
had no qualms about diving straight into exactly what you were seeking
as responses, earning your, Ram's and Bhuban Kokaideu's lavish
praises.
Don't you think it is time to give it a rest? I know you were
upset. And I was responsible for causing it. But you don't need
to go to such lengths to compromise your credibility Rajen. I don't
seek it. It gives me no pleasure to see my friend in such a
situation.
c
At 2:03 PM -0600 1/2/05, Barua25 wrote:
Chandan:
I am appalled by your analysis and trying to read too much into my question. My whole question was based on the news that Manipal Medical College has opebned branches in Thailand and Nepal. Why can't you just respond what you think instead of trying to accuse me that
"The question is a contrived one designed to lead to a desired answer. It was absolutely NOT a question to attempt to gage the conditions of education in India."
I never stated that it is an attempt to gauge the conditions of education in India. Where did you get that? I in fact don't know if any other educational institutions have opened branch outside India. Why can't you just look at my questions with an open mind and just respond if you want to respond. I never asked you to respond. My head line itself shows that it is a question out of the blue. Just a question whcih came to my mind. Period. Why can't you look at a question what it is instead of reading too much into the questioner's motive or intention where there is none and create an issue for debate just for the sake of debate? .
RB/
----- Original Message -----From: Chan MahantaTo: Barua25 ; [email protected]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:54 AMSubject: Re: [Assam] Educational Institutions in IndiaRajen, Ram and Rajib:Here is my response to Rajen's leading question:>Question: Why the South seems to be better disciplined in educational>institutions in India specially in >Medicine?*** The premise of the question is patently untrue.Better disciplined than what? Assam, Bihar, Delhi, Bengal, Andamans?There were fine medical colleges in India going back a century. The premier ones were in Kolkata and Mumbai. Later came AIIMS, Chandigarh Medical College etc. They are not the South. Of course there were good schools in the South too. I don't remember the name, but one is from Andhra.These have been there far far longer than Manipal.And let us look at OTHER educational institutions:Calcutta University, Presidency College, Jadavpur U., BE College, Delhi U, MS U in Baroda, Aligarth Muslim U, Benares Hindu U -- and dozens of others like that have produced some of India's best from over a century ago. Add to that the IITs, Roorkee U, BIT and others that appeared fifty or more years ago, none of them were from the South.Don't they count?So is it a question of the South and its discipline at the root of the successes of these institutions? Is there a natural link here?The question is a contrived one designed to lead to a desired answer. It was absolutely NOT a question to attempt to gage the conditions of education in India.If it was then the wrong question was asked under the wrong premise.>Sometime it looks like South India is more Mainlanland India.** What on earth is this supposed to mean? Is there such a thing as a,'mainlandIndia' and there are those that are 'pabot-goza' India, not quite like the 'mainland' India?The whole notion of India at the time of independence was one of pluralism. Which by definition accepts diversity of its many constituents without hegemony of one over the other.The fact that it has NOT turned out that way is a failure of the Indian experiment. But that is a different matter.Is this question implying that the South alone has been able to forge the dream of Indian nationhood, unlike the rest? If so, what is the evidence to support such a premise? That the Owners of Manipal Institute, who are from the South opening branches in Nepal and Thailand?Is this a serious question deserving a serious reply?>Why they donot revolt against the domination of the Hindi-wallas?What does this question have to do with the premise of the question :>Why the South seems to be better disciplined in educational>institutions in India specially in >Medicine?Is it a natural corollary to it? Or is it a convoluted and contrived attemptto somehow connect it to the NE's disgruntlement, which Rajib dutifully complied with and gave his verdict with rahs from Ram and the ever so gentle applauds from Bhuban Kokaideu :-)?>The South seem to be progressing completely ignoring or in spite of the Hindi belt North India. Or is >the South gradually taking over the North?If Rajen had the courage of his convictions, he would have asked a straight forward question. Something like:*** Assam complains too much about domination by the Hindi belt politics. But I don't believe it is so. Just look at the South. They are doing well in spite of the same conditions that they face from the Hindi belt.That would have been an intellectually honest proposition, even though it would be a faulty one. But At least we could have debated that with integrity instead of in the sly.
Blue Thoughts:
It seems some Indian educational institutions are doing great. Take for instance the welknown : Manipal Medical College. I came to know that they have now opened brnaches even in Nepal and Thailand and are attarcting lot of international students.
Question: Why the South seems to be better disciplined in educational institutions in India specially in Medicine? What is the secret? Sometime it looks like South India is more Mainlanland India. Why they donot revolt against the domination of the Hindi-wallas? Why they donot hate India like the North East? The South seem to be progressing completely ignoring or in spite of the Hindi belt North India. Or is the South gradually taking over the North?
RB
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