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Thanks.
I am sure these words such as Chandi Chowk etc came
through the Moghols from Persian language.
Chowk here may mean the same 'bazar' as the Persian/Arabic
word.
I found that in Kuwait, all the bazars are called a SUK.
or may be CHOWK. Thiis may be true also in Saudi Arabia and other Middle East
countries. I think the Jorhat Sok Bazar or Chowk Bazar
may be a Persian/Arabic origin.
After all 'bazar' is a Persian word.
One may ask how Assamese got so many Persian/Arabic
wrods.
One answer is that, the Moghols attacked Assam for 17
times. Everytime, certain number of Moghol solders remained, setteled in Assam
and became Assamese. However in the process they carried some Persian/Arabic
wrods to the Assamese language. If we say, 5 words for every Assam-Moghol war,
we should have at least 70 Arabic/Persian words in our language.Then again we
got many Persian/Arabic words during the British rule. The Ahoms emigrated
many Moghol skilled labourers (mistries) to build temples and palaces. Abdul
Mailk wrote a book on such words in Assamese language, However in my opinion,
the book did not go far enough.
I was surprised to find Assamese words like 'sotur'
(intelligent) 'jol' (speed) (tumi joldi aha) etc to be Persian/Arabic
origin.
I think this is a good subject for someone to
investigate and write a new book.
Barua
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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:44
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: ref: my
introduction
Barua:
The word 'suk' may not be there in Hindi. But the common word 'Chowk'
like 'Chandini Chowk' or in Lucknow they have many places ending with
'Chowk'.
As far as I know the word 'Chowk' mean a 4-way crossing, where usually a
'hat' or a bozaar sits.
So the word Chowk seems to the closest to the one we are looking for
Suk.
--Ram
On 8/19/05, Barua25
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wrote:
Thanks. I was also looking at my Hindi
dictionary where I did not find the word pul. But it is
there in Bengali. I did not know that in Hindi they use the wrod though.
What about the Assamese word hat (bazar).? It is a very
typical word in Assamese. (Jorhat, Borhat, etc). . Do they
use it in Hindi. I see it in Bengali dictionary?.
Rajen Barua
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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 1:15
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: ref: my
introduction
Thats really interesting! But one thing confused me.
"The word pul is not there in
Hindi but in Bengali."
All my Hindi speaking friends and even people
giving road directions when u enquire about
locations in North India call the bridge "PUL". So, I've
consulted the hindi dictionary. And infact the word "PUL" for bridge is
not there. The correct word is "Setu". Maybe they use the arabic (urdu)
word "pul" colloquially. Interesting.
Muktikam Phukan
Jokai is also called
jakoi, is not it? I think it is good Assamese word. I
wonder if the word is in other Indian languages.
That brings us to the question of
the other word; SUK. Jokai-suk,
Doha-Bora Suk, Hazarika Suk etc.
The word
suk, I could not find in Hindi or Bengali but only in
Assamese. The Arabic has a similar word suk meaning
bazar . I am not sure if the Assamese
suk came from the Arabic direct. In Jorhat we have
a market called Sok Bazar. This
Sok I think is same as Arabic Suk
meaning Bazar. Although in Assamese the meaning of the word
suk written as 'corner', I find it hard to believe that
Jokai Suk, Doha Bora Suk really mean
'corner'. At one time these words might have meant
'bazar' or 'hat'. It is possible that
the Arabic Suk has connection to the Assamese
suk. Another such interesting Assamese word is the word
pul (bridge). ( Xi pulot bohi
ase). Th! e word pul is not there in
Hindi but in Bengali. Also it is in Persian. In Assamese there many such
words of Arabic origin which are not found in other Indian languages.
Incidently all the following Assamese words are of Arabic origin, These
are probably in many other Indian languages: nogod, joma,
khoros, khobor, kagoj, kolom, kitab, mosgul, hajir, ohmok, hakim, rokom,
dewai, masul, khotom, julum, khali, khalas, malik, sotur, tarikh, son
(year), nojor, harami etc
Interesting!!
Rajen
Barua.
.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005
11:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Assam] Re: ref: my
introduction
I
want to add something in this regard ...
'Jokai'
is a familiar name in Assam. If you go through
the
assamese newspapers regularly you will
come
across many places called 'Jokai' situated in different parts
of Assam.
I personally know a place called 'Jokai' ( including a
village and a big reserve forest called 'Jokai reserve forest' ),
which is
around
10 Km away from Dibrugarh towards Burhidihing
river.
Every
one must be knowing the company called 'Jokai India Limited' .
C.R.Baruah
Welcome Utpal. Our paths crossed before. I am sure you
remember. Congrats. again on your fine efforts.
Thanks for correcting me. I had a vague idea that there indeed
is a place called Jokaisuk, but was never clear on where it stood.
Turns out it is less than ten miles from my birth-'muluk' :-). But
like Ram suggests, it can become a generic but
quintessentially kharkhowa, obscure and humble locale, that many of
us can claim our roots to. In that it is a band of honor that we
proudly wear.
Best,
c-da
At 5:36 PM +0100 8/18/05, utpal borpujari wrote:
Hi all. Just a few things:
1. "Actually Jokaisuk is a mythical 'muluk', from
which both Tilok Daktor and myself, as well as a host of other
kharkhowas can and do hail."
- Chandan-da, Jokaisuk, as far as I know (correct me
if I am wrong) is not a 'mythical muluk'. In fact, quite
contrary to the image the name gives, it is located right on the
national highway between Amguri and Sivasagar, before one
reaches Gaurisagar.
2. "I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is
'bhoyote touba touba khaise'. - RAJEN"
Bhoi khowa nai. I am actually quite excited that
what I thought was just a mere introductory mail from me, and
thereby obviously my first mail to the group, has led to such an
interesting discussion.
3. Manoj-da (of Assam Association, Delhi) and
Shantikam Hazarika : Thanks for mentioning about my winning
the national Best film critic Swarna Kamal award in 2003 and
being a jury member at the national film awards this year. This
kind of constant encouragement helps in thinking of doing
something better.
4. A request to everyone in the group: unless there
is some kind of rule about this, please delete all the previous
mails (except may be the mail to which one is replying to) while
hitting the reply button. Otherwise, this makes the mailers very
voluminous, with the same mails being appended at the bottom of
each mail repetatively.
- Utpal
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