Here are my answers to questions by Kaushik Barua:

And what exactly do you mean by "Alternative Analysis"??

"A second analysis that will exclude any objectionable stuff found in the first 
analysis, but will at least include likely answers to the questions I asked 
(see below) in my previous email."

Just because he belongs to a particular caste/community, is it justified to 
accept the verdict or so-called analytical "conclusion" that he is willfully 
discriminating against the other communities?. Can you tell me how we are 
ADDING VALUE by doing this?

"Sorry but I do not see these questions relevant, since in the first analysis 
the author defined OBC equals Other Backward Class."

Or is Class same as Caste?

Thanks,
Ranendra Das

Kaushik Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, Mr Ranendra Das, you are correct in saying that I am NOT endorsing or 
covering up the actions of the CM or the so-called police officer. Because my 
sole intention was to simply convey that "we should try and use this online 
group/forum for sharing and exchanging constructive ideas and information, 
which should ADD VALUE, like you yourself so gloriously emphasised in your 
mail, instead of using it as a platform for expounding/propagating news and 
analysis based on the premises of caste, community, creed etc that might 
further divide our society which is already in the throes of such violence and 
turmoil".

Yes, if the CM is not dispensing his duties appropiately and innocent people 
are suffering due to this, then definitely the public has the right to raise 
valid questions. Yes, indeed people should raise their voice and make the 
concerned persons answerable. But is it justified to bring the caste-community 
angle to his actions (or lack of it, like it has been alleged)?? Just because 
he belongs to a particular caste/community, is it justified to accept the 
verdict or so-called analytical "conclusion" that he is willfully 
discriminating against the other communities?.   Can you tell me how we are 
ADDING VALUE by doing this?

And what exactly do you mean by "Alternative Analysis"??

Best Regards,
Kaushik Barua

----- Original Message ----
From: ranendra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:11:23 AM
Subject: [asom] Re: Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi: non-Ahom native-Assamese & 
Kamrupi murders

Let us say that Kaushik Barua's purpose of writing is "not to cover up CM Gogoi 
and police officer Patangia thru his writing".

Then it would be interesting to know what Kaushik Barua has to say about:

   1. why CM Gogoi ordered a judicial probe within 12 hours after gunning down 
the two Geleki Gogois?
   2. why CM Gogoi needed 9 days to order a judicial probe for Budheswar Moran?
   3. why CM Gogoi did not (or yet to) order judicial probes for Vaishnavs' 
murderers under the jurisdiction of Garshuk PS, officer in-charge Mr. Patangia, 
though the first murder took place in January?

My suggestion is that one should present an alternative analysis to counter an 
analysis, because that way it adds value.

Note that if CM Gogoi would have ordered a judicial probe for the first 
Vaishnav murder under the jurisdiction of police officer Patangia in January, 
the most recent murders of the other 2 Vaishanav could have been prevented. 
Similarly, there would not have been 8 more deaths after Moran.

Thanks,
Ranendra Das

--- Kaushik Barua <ikaushik.barua@
...> wrote:

How ridiculous and cheap this kind of analysis appears in this age of 
globalization, when people are transcending the barriers of caste, religion and 
nationality. Even though this is a democratic country and everyone has the 
right to express their own views/perspectives, this kind of 
analysis/justifications based on caste, creed and regionalism should be 
severely condemned and discouraged, as this will initiate nothing else but 
further hatred and division of our society.

Best Regards,

Kaushik Barua


rabindeka <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi:
non-Ahom native-Assamese & Kamrupi murders in Assam

In Geleki Sivsagar when CISF jawans gunned down 2 youths Chief Minister Tarun 
Gogoi has ordered a judicial probe into the incident within less than 12 hours 
of the death. Here the two local youths gunned down were Nilikesh Gogoi and 
Bhulu Gogoi.

see link
http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=jan2507/at02

to see how the killer has been taken to Sivsagar Court:
http://www.assamtribune.com/jan3007/photo.html

While the Jammu and Kashmir Rifles making him a fake-ulfa murdered the 
twenty-four- year-old Tea Garden Night Watch Man Buddheswar Moran on May 5, the 
same Chief Minister of Assam Tarun Gogoi had not ordered a judicial probe into 
the incident within less than 12 hours. Instead he waited and continued to 
watch more deaths - at least eight deaths were reported during the protest.

The Chief Minister has ordered a judicial probe to the murder of Buddheswar 
Moran on May 14. This was 9 days apart, as opposed to 12 hours in case of 
Geleki's Gogois

see link
http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details. asp?id=may1507/at09

Ahom history reveals that Ahom rulers discriminated/ punished Moran people.

Two examples of Kamrupi murders Tarun Gogoi yet to order judicial probes:

   1. In January Assam Police picked a Vaishnav boy (Sarma, a bipra boy, 
Narayani Vaishnav) from Mazkhowa while came to Guwanati from Tangal (greater 
Kamrupi land) to buy stuff for his Gelamaal Dokaan. Then the police (Garshuk 
police station, near Mazkhowa) let him go near Nepali Pahar and then shot him 
to death - Assam Police made him a fake-ulfa.
   2. Most recent after Guwahati bomb blast, Assam Police took off two Vaishnav 
boys from a bus and shot to death once again near Garshuk police station - here 
too Assam Police made both of them fake-ulfa. They were both from Shimla 
(greater Kamrupi land) and were day labour in Guwahati.

Current Garshuk Polis Station Officer Incharge is a Ahom (Patangia) man as well.

    * Is Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi a icon of Ahom ruler that he must 
discriminate and watch more deaths if victims were not Ahom?
    * Or is Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi abusing Ahom Wisdom?
    * Or is Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi availing OBC quota here?
    * Can people forgive ISI Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi ?

Abbreviation:
OBC - Other Backward Class
ISI - Inconsistently- low-morale native-asSamese Individual
CM - Chief Minister

It appears as if OBC ISI Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi prioritizes Ahom population 
of Assam and protects them.

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