"But I'm talking about a better "ALC for Experts".

David - I've never had the pleasure  of working with any of the products you've 
developed, but anyone with the skills needed to deploy "z/XDC for Assembler 
Deployment and Debugging" would be an ideal person to write such a book.


Mike Murrell
H-E-B
Mainframe Support Group
Arsenal - West/1 Atrium
210-573-0239
[email protected]


From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of David Cole
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:22 AM
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Subject: Re: HLASM manuals

At 8/19/2011 12:02 PM, Murrell,Mike wrote:

Mike Murach wrote the ALC for Dummies back in the 70s.

That's well and good (except that a helluvalot has changed since the '70s).
But I'm talking about a better "ALC for Experts".

Dave





Mike Murrell
H-E-B
Mainframe Support Group
Arsenal - West/1 Atrium
210-573-0239
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [ mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of john gilmore
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: HLASM manuals

There has been some discussion of these manuals on IBM-MAIN.  Its main thrust 
appears to be that they should be dumbed down.  (This terminology is of course 
avoided.)

My own view is that no fundamental rethinking of either their organization or 
content is required.

Detailed improvements are sometimes needed.

An example.  I conducted a client workshop on the macro language in July; and 
during it I realized for the first time that too many questions about the 
syntax of the BIFs were coming up because the LR examples of their use all 
feature constant arguments when some at least (and in my view most) of them 
should feature set-symbol ones instead.  I have a memo for John Ehrman about 
this in the works; in my experience he has always been receptive to such 
suggestions; and making them is, I think, the way to get such changes made.

The burden of what I am saying is that a Language Reference is not a tutorial 
introduction.  There may well be a place and market for an HLASM for dummies 
publication, but making the LR into one is not, in my view, a good idea.
John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA

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