John,

At least you have a REAL machine I have z/Pdt which great for development ..
Last machines I saw were 968x series,

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:57 PM, "McKown, John" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. It is for updating "Read Mostly Memory". 
> Since the death of PLMs, I really don't know much about internals any more. I 
> now tend to be a "strict GUPI" type of programmer. Do you happen to know of a 
> z/OS data structure which is "read mostly"? Thinking about it, the CICS 
> definition control blocks: PPT, PCT, FCT, ... are likely "read mostly" except 
> for a few statistics fields. I don't know much about other things, since we 
> are a very primitive shop.
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Cole
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:47 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: The Transaction state (was Model 2827 New Instructions)
>>
>> The transaction state is expected to replace many instances of
>> acquiring either a latch or a lock. It's benefit arises because
>> latches/locks do not distinguish between a "shared" need vs. an
>> "exclusive" need, so all latches/locks are, effectively, "exclusive".
>>
>> Consider a thousand processes needing to scan a queue and one
>> process, every year or so, updating that queue. The scan processes do
>> not need to defend against each other, only against the updater. So a
>> vast majority of the time, scanners are "unnecessarily" delayed.
>> "Unnecessary" in the sense that the updater just ain't there, only
>> other scanners.
>>
>> With the transaction state, neither scanners nor updaters need to
>> acquire any latch or lock. In fact, the scanners don't need to
>> acquire anything at all. They can simply scan the queue and be
>> assured (a) their scan will both complete and succeed, and (b) they
>> will see the queue either prior to update, or after update, but never
>> mid-update; i.e. they will always see a coherent queue.
>>
>> Only the updater needs to use the transaction state ("TS"). Scanners
>> won't interfere with him. Other updaters (whether they're also in the
>> transaction state or not!) may interfere. I.e. they may try to update
>> the same fields at the same time. This is called a "collision"...
>>
>> - If both colliders are in the transaction state, then one will win
>> (and will proceed undisturbed) and one will lose (will TABORT and
>> will have to retry).
>>
>> - If one is in the TS state and one is not, then the one who is not
>> will win, and the one who is will have to retry.
>>
>> Of course, every updater should be in the TS state because if two
>> colliders are not... well that is what you want to avoid.
>>
>> IHTH
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>> At 9/18/2012 02:20 PM, McKown, John wrote:
>>> I just read up on the Transaction Execution. I now need two things:
>>> 1. Aspirin; 2. a nap. I get the general concept, but the
>>> restrictions are immense. I guess it is good for a *very* short
>>> routine which does not update very much storage. The conditions
>>> under which it can abort are a multitude. I wonder exactly what it
>>> was that made IBM decide to implement it, as opposed to doing a CPU
>>> "spin loop". I guess it is the only way to guarantee that another
>>> CPU simply cannot observe an "in flight" set of updates by *any*
>>> other code on *any* other CPU.
>>>
>>> Now to read up on the other new instructions.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John McKown
>>> Systems Engineer IV
>>> IT
>>>
>>> Administrative Services Group
>>>
>>> HealthMarkets(r)
>>>
>>> 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
>>> (817) 255-3225 phone *
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