Not so fast John A lot depends on the platform as well and mainainability IS a virtue. I know Assembler, maybe as well as you do. I probably can pull the trick and create the equivalent of the proverbial one liner that can do! (I am probably close to be able to do that in regex as well:) But I don't! Exactly because of the sentiment that you've expressed in your first post and out of defference to co-workers. But let me please illustrate the platform issue. I wrote a Rexx application that processed the whole regiment of the Cclient's JCL, jobs, procs, includes, some 70,000 members. The whole thing ran about 20 minutes (interpreted Rexx) on the test bed PC/Linux. So, it was approved for UAT/Production and it moved to the target machine, the clients super duper IBM AIX (the fastest comercial machine on earth according to the client personel.) It never finished after 4 hours (several attempts)! As a compromise, I moved it to the mainframe, where it (again, interpreted version) worked for about 1 hour, mainly because of the stupid alloc/execio, less than optimal, IO scheme that was the only option available to me in that backwards facility (no compiled Rexx, no IO stream, nothing.) So yes, your Assembler took 3 seconds vs. 3 hours, but how mainainable it is by people other that you?. A more careful analysis of the Rexx, maybe conversion to PL/1, maybe usage of IO libraries that are available on the internet (CBT perhaps), maybe compiled Rexx with IO Streams (available form IBM) may have yield an acceptable 5 minutes with a very maintainable code.
Ze'ev Atlas ________________________________ From: John Walker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 26 Mar 2014 to 27 Mar 2014 (#2014-57) Wow, Scotty. We are certainly fanning the flames aren'w we? So, your proof of legitimacy is ALL pc-related. Zzzzzz. That is NON-relevant to a mainframe. Your opinion is every bit as caustically negative as mine(saves somebody the swipe there). . But, getting back to the costs, which SMART men like IBM understand, when you look at the costs of the hardware AND programmers and CONSTANT reprogramming needed for garbage like Java(really, even C++ is better than that), the costs per output of product is VASTLY higher for a pc based application. And the product is reports of value to a company, not inflated fluff reports coming from something like Hadoo. And yes, FOOL, it is WISE to boast about something written in a language which creates things FAR faster than garbage interpreted code. As an example, I wrote something in Rexx that took 3 hours to run. I converted to Assembler, and it took 3 SECONDS to run. So they are smart, you are NOT. That's why the big boys SHOULD ignore you. Costs are what matter to the big boys, and doing something that much faster means that much LESS computing time. I know, it's frustrating not having your way, buddy, but time to accept facts. These are facts. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3/27/14, Automatic digest processor <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 26 Mar 2014 to 27 Mar 2014 (#2014-57) To: "Recipients of ASSEMBLER-LIST digests" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014, 11:00 PM ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 26 Mar 2014 to 27 Mar 2014 (#2014-57) LISTSERV at the University of Georgia ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 26 Mar 2014 to 27 Mar 2014 (#2014-57) Table of contents: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (8) Automatic reply: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (2) ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 25 Mar 2014 to 26 Mar 2014 (#2014-56) Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/26) From: skg <[email protected]> Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/26) From: skg <[email protected]> Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: John Gilmore <[email protected]> Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: Kirk Talman <[email protected]> Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: Ze'ev Atlas <[email protected]> Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: David de Jongh <[email protected]> Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: Kirk Talman <[email protected]> Re: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: Lloyd Fuller <[email protected]> Automatic reply: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills Automatic reply: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: Steve Hazzard <[email protected]> Automatic reply: Another Article On Lagging Mainframe Skills (03/27) From: "Ward Able, Grant" <[email protected]> ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 25 Mar 2014 to 26 Mar 2014 (#2014-56) Re: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 25 Mar 2014 to 26 Mar 2014 (#2014-56) (03/27) From: John Walker <[email protected]> Browse the ASSEMBLER-LIST online archives.
