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> On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Steve Thompson <ste...@copper.net> wrote:
> 
> My understanding of US Copyright law is a bit different that yours. But, I'm 
> not an attorney and I certainly haven't stayed at a H/I Express.
> 
> If M/F in acquiring Borland also by that purchase obtained the copyrights and 
> other IP, then I seriously doubt that this is in the public domain. Which is 
> why I asked them and am waiting for a response.
> 
> However, if Len Dorfman wrote this and was paid royalties by Borland, then 
> Len still owns this (as opposed to Borland buying the "copyright").
> 
> Be careful in asserting that something has gone into the public domain in the 
> area of copyright. You could get burned.
> 
> I have some interest in copyrights because of IP owned by my family. And to 
> my knowledge the renewal of copyright was changed in the '60s to no longer 
> needing to formally renew it. This is how certain music passed into the 
> public domain because it expired before anyone realized that they still had 
> to do a renewal to pass into the no renewals "zone", and copyright became the 
> life of the author plus some number of years depending on how famous the 
> author was (hence the nick-name for this law as the Mickey-Mouse law -- this 
> was pursued by "Disney" to protect, you got it, Mickey Mouse and the rest).
> 
> Regards,
> Steve Thompson
> 
>> On 02/08/2018 06:09 PM, Paul Raulerson wrote:
>> Hi Steve -
>> Borland, 1990, USA, and as far as I can tell, the copyright was not renewed 
>> after the product was abandoned. Copyright law in 1990 was still somewhat 
>> sane...
>> I am not a copyright lawyer though, so caveat emptor!
>> Typos courtesy of my iPhone and my fat fingers!
>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 16:56, Steve Thompson <ste...@copper.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I must challenge your statement about the copyright's expiration, or did 
>>> the author put it in the public domain?
>>> 
>>> In what country was it originally copyrighted?
>>> 
>>> Has the author been dead more than 20 years? [and that death date may be 
>>> different for the item to pass into the public domain as in the USofA the 
>>> Mickey Mouse law keeps getting the date shoved further and further into the 
>>> future.]
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Steve Thompson
>>> 
>>> On 02/08/2018 05:24 PM, Paul Raulerson wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Paul Raulerson <paul.rauler...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How about the? Object Oriented ASSEMBLER LANGUAGE - from 1990.  (grin)  
>>>>> Not HLASM, but a fun read for language historians, amateur or otherwise!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The manual is out of copyright, and the entire book is available over at 
>>>>> Bitsavers, if anyone would like to read it. I reproduced a few pages here 
>>>>> to whet your appetites. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chapter 4 is the most interesting part to me, and provides an interesting 
>>>>> take on the subject I think. Caveat, I never used the OO parts of this 
>>>>> assembler, mostly because it just looked like “too much trouble.”   I 
>>>>> wish I had taken more time to study it back then.  In any event… enjoy!
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/borland/turbo_assembler/Turbo_Assembler_Version_5_Users_Guide.pdf
>>>>>  
>>>>> <http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/borland/turbo_assembler/Turbo_Assembler_Version_5_Users_Guide.pdf>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> <page52image3841408.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> <page53image3840736.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> <page54image3827296.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> <page55image3807136.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu 
>>>>>> <mailto:sme...@gmu.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can get down and dirty with machine code, but my standard coding 
>>>>>> practice is to use lots of macros to automate repetitive tasks, 
>>>>>> sometimes with different code paths depending on the target processor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As to library overhead, I've certainly written code design to fir well 
>>>>>> in a PL/I environment and never found the overhead to be unreasonable. 
>>>>>> And, yes, there is other code where I sweat every cycle, but that's the 
>>>>>> exception.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can't see using the full OO paradigm in HLASM, but I've certainly seen 
>>>>>> implementation of parts of it in assembler code.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That "definition" isn't a definition, it's simply a list of purport6ed 
>>>>>> benefits. There are theological arguments about the one true definition, 
>>>>>> but there is a broad consensus that it includes classes, methods, 
>>>>>> objects, messages and inheritance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>>>>>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 <http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 

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