I'm fully conversant with UNPK, including the fact that the zone it sets 
depends on the value of the ASCII bit. How is that relevant to handling 
teletypes?


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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On 2020-08-09 15:05, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> How is the ASCII bit relevant to teletypes? It only affects the
> handling of the sign nybble.

You might want to check out the UNPK instruction.


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>> The ASCII feature of S/360 probably wasn't used because it's nearly
>> useless.
>
> What?  See my earlier report that no IBM operating system could
> turn on the ASCII bit.
>
> The ASCII feature would have been useful in talking to ASCII teletypes.
>
>>  Turning on ASCII mode caused PACK & CVD to generate ASCII sign
>> codes and UNPK to generate ASCII zone codes.  As far as I can tell,
>> that's
>> it.  I'd say that the much later PKA & UNPKA instructions make a lot
>> more
>> sense than a system option, so I suppose somebody thinks the function
>> is
>> useful.  But you could always convert zoned decimal with NC/OC or, of
>> course TR.
>>
>> ED isn't in my very old S/360 PoOp (A22-6821-0),
>
> no?  Look at page 57.
>
> ED, EDMK, TR, TRT, etc etc are all in this manual.  See Bitsavers.
>
>> but ED certainly came out
>> soon, long before the ASCII bit was officially dropped.  Anyway, I
>> don't
>> know whether it supported ASCII mode or not.
>
> It did. Both EBCDIC and ASCII.
>
> But, as I reported earlier, no IBM operating system permitted the
> ASCII bit to be set.

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