>> You mean, they are 'scoring' the receiving MX in much >> they same way ASSP is scoring the sending MX?
> In my experience yes - if they do this manualy or automaticly > - I don't know. In many cases it's automatic; but it all depends from the kind of spam we're looking at; spammers using a bunch of bulkmailers like (e.g.) sendblaster and the like will use scripts to check the logs and remove from their lists (list washing) "bad addresses" on the other hand, spam sent through botnets totally ignores that; all in all, in such a case the bandwidth and resources are stoled to other people (infected systems turned into "zombies") so the spammers don't care about wasting a single box time since they have thousands of boxes sweeping all over the 'net The only real way to stop spam (and junk email in general) would be a worldwide agreement to block port 25/tcp output from dynamic IPs, only allowing access toward the given ISP/Carrier SMTP servers and btw allowing to use SMTP "submit" port to access external servers using authenticated connections; at that point ISP/carriers should monitor their networks and quickly react to abuses, this in turn would allow to quickly suspend any violating account I know, it will probably NEVER happen <<sigh>> but the fact is that, while filtering spam (as ASSP does *well*) is a need, doing so means dealing with the "effects" not with the *causes* of the problem and it's and will be a "whack-a-mole" approach which, on the long term isn't a winning one :( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test