>> You mean, they are 'scoring' the receiving MX in much
>> they same way ASSP is scoring the sending MX?

> In my experience yes - if they do this manualy or automaticly
> - I don't know.

In many cases it's automatic; but it all depends from the kind
of spam we're looking at; spammers using a bunch of bulkmailers
like (e.g.) sendblaster and the like will use scripts to check the
logs and remove from their lists (list washing) "bad addresses"
on the other hand, spam sent through botnets totally ignores
that; all in all, in such a case the bandwidth and resources are
stoled to other people (infected systems turned into "zombies")
so the spammers don't care about wasting a single box time
since they have thousands of boxes sweeping all over the 'net

The only real way to stop spam (and junk email in general) would
be a worldwide agreement to block port 25/tcp output from dynamic
IPs, only allowing access toward the given ISP/Carrier SMTP servers
and btw allowing to use SMTP "submit" port to access external
servers using authenticated connections; at that point ISP/carriers
should monitor their networks and quickly react to abuses, this in
turn would allow to quickly suspend any violating account

I know, it will probably NEVER happen <<sigh>> but the fact is that,
while filtering spam (as ASSP does *well*) is a need, doing so means
dealing with the "effects" not with the *causes* of the problem and it's
and will be a "whack-a-mole" approach which, on the long term isn't
a winning one :(




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