On Friday, March 04, 2016 08:17:54 AM Thomas Eckardt wrote:
> >You cannot go
> >download each previous version that was released.
> 
> This is simply NOT true.
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/assp/files/OldFiles/
> 
> But you need a SF account and you have to login to see the old versions.

Is there any way that can be made public? It breaks the package on Gentoo 
because older sources cannot be fetched. I haven't used my S.F. account in 
over a decade. Usually logging in to fetch sources is frowned upon. 

But thanks for letting us know about that, not sure how I missed it.

> CVS - is for development and is cleanup after some time from too old code
> for performance reasons.
> 
> >fork
> 
> Some assp history.
> There was never a fork of assp. 

I did not meant to give off the impression there ever was. I was more stating 
major changes went into V2 from V1. Kind of like if assp was refactored for 
what ever reason, into many files etc. Its some what along the same lines, 
major change.

> It was a decision of Fritz and me to start
> developing a multithreaded more powerfull version of assp in 2008 (V
> 1.4.1). Frrtz had nice ideas, me too and I had the time to code them. Many
> V2 features and code were implemeted in to V1. Target was, to stop V1
> development and to freeze the code of V1 at a date, when most hardware is
> able to meet the requirements of V2. We tried to to keep the V1 and V2
> code compatible to each other over four or five years. Than it was in my
> opinion time to finish V1.
> But Fritz - god bless him - was not able to let his 'baby' (V1) die - nor
> was he able to follow the V2 development, because of his sickness. After
> Fritz passed away in spring 2014 I got some help from John Calvi to fixup
> the messed up V1 code to a final state at the end of 2014. It was my
> decision to stop the V1 development, because it is useless to maintain two
> versions of the same application - it takes double the time, without any
> advantage.

That could explain why many were slow to adopt V2 as V1 seemed to still be 
actively developed. I am not sure many were aware of this difference of 
direction. Thanks for letting us all know!

No disagreement over ending V1. Nothing wrong with moving on to a newer 
version and letting an older die. Most projects stop supporting older versions 
at some point or another.

> >All of the code is not Thomas's,
> 
> I'm sorry - but V2 it is my code. 1.4.4 has ~ 1MB of code - 2.4.8 has ~
> 4MB of code (incl. lib + plugins + SF-code) - it will be hard to find any
> old code in V2 that was not changed by me - all new code is written by me!
> The last code I took from a V1 version was the XML-Stats code in 2010 or
> 2011 - but even this code has been changed alot.

There has to be allot of code still in use from V1 and other. V2 has the same 
web interface as V1. That was not completely new code. From the Gentoo 
package, I was able to re-use allot of sed from V1. Which means the exact same 
code exists, otherwise the patterns sed is matching against would change.

I understand that any of the multi-threading, multi-process code was done by 
Thomas. Along with any new features in V2 that were not in V1. I have no doubt 
there is allot of new code added by Thomas, but there is code in there from 
others, maybe refactored, but allot is in there unchanged.

Even in FOSS if you refactor or rewrite something, you still must give credit 
to previous authors your work was based on. It really cannot be claimed as 
100% all yours. That even extends to if it was done in another language.

Anyway thanks for the information Thomas, and continued efforts!

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.
Obsidian-Studios, Inc.
http://www.obsidian-studios.com

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