I know how the Internet works. I'm about to get my own AS for 7 sites in
the US and 2 in the EU with more to come.
If both endpoints share a common ISP, its ALMOST as good as having a private
IP link. The data does not cross peering points and your provider is solely
responsible for the quality of the traffic. Better than that is to purchase
layer 2 services available from MANY providers. If you get your own AS, you
can then peer with your VoIP partners as well as one or more transit
providers. This then provides a failover if your private link goes down.
IP connections can be made much more fault tolerant than TDM connections at
a much lower cost.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Totaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] RE: If money is not a considerationwho
givesthebest SIP termination??
And how do you do this over the public internet? Do you control the
routers? Do they observe your QoS settings? Do they guarantee a certain
router will not have too much latency or packets will arrive in the same
order or even traverse the same path? No they dont.
"Make the network the VoIP is running over better." is pretty difficult
when you do not control the network (ie the internet) and when data is
handed off between ISPs, it becomes impossible. Do a traceroute to just
about anything and you will see that your traffic is going over multiple
routers owned by multiple companies and tinkered with by multitudes of
techs on daily basis.
As I said, TDM or point to point data links are the only way to go if
price is not an issue.
Convince me otherwise.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
Mike Hammett wrote:
What's the point in using TDM anymore. Your problem with the quality
isn't with VoIP itself, but what it's running over. Make the network the
VoIP is running over better.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Totaro"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] RE: If money is not a consideration who
givesthebest SIP termination??
If money was not a consideration then why would you go with SIP at all
unless it is coming over point to point data links?
Global Crossing offers SIP service but the cost is basically the same as
TDM (at least with our agreement) and comes as dedicated bandwidth. The
upside of this is no TDM equipment on our end such as Sangoma or Digium
cards and dedicated servers to translate our DS3 (28 T1s) into SIP (a
fairly large hardware investment, although, small in the TDM world). I
also assume that calls delivered by a major carrier over dedicated lines
would have absolutely no echo issues and negligable ping times as well
(another huge plus).
Why risk SIP over the public internet if money is not a consideration
but quality is? The answer there is TDM.
That being said, if money *is* an issue but so is quality (knowing the
trade-offs, ins and outs of VoIP), who can offer origination and
termination with LNP of 1,000 toll free numbers and approx 5million
minutes a month? Mostly inbound toll free for a call center application
and outbound of about 1million minutes (quickly ramping up) of outbound
LD to the US 48 for a calling card application? We could easily see 10
million minutes in the next six months or so.
On top of that, who if anyone can offer a co-lo in the DC metro area
(other areas considered) to keep latency down?
If anyone can do that, I would LOVE to talk to you.
Thanks,
Steve
jay kordic wrote:
I have multiple partners that are USA based companies and resell USA
Tier 1 networks such as Verizon/MCI, Level 3/Broadwing, Qwest and
Global Crossing. Most of these resellers have no minimum commitment,
bill by LATA/OCN and can mix and match underlying carriers for both
cost effectiveness and redundancy. Please contact me to discuss a
program that could be a great fit for you. At least give me an
opportunity.
Jay Kordic
The Horizon Group
Wholesale/Retail VOIP and TDM services
951-780-3131 (office)
951-850-0887 (mobile)
515-322-0273 (fax)
MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Alan
Frisch
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:57 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [asterisk-biz] RE: If money is not a consideration who gives
thebest SIP termination??
Forgive me if I've had me head in the sand for too long... but when did
Bulgaria become a part of the United States?
Hello Mike,
We are a US carrier offering excellent quality A-Z termination,
servicing
successfully retail corporate and individual networks for over 6
years.
Please contact me offline to discuss in details.
Thanks and best regards,
Albena Trencheva
Nutel Communications LLC
Tel: +359 2 4900442
Mob; +359 88 843 31 97
Email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<http://www.nutel.cc/> www.nutel.cc <http://www.nutel.cc>
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