On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:31 AM Olle E. Johansson <o...@edvina.net> wrote:
> > > On 4 Dec 2023, at 13:38, Joshua C. Colp <jc...@sangoma.com> wrote: > > The mailing lists have remained unchanged since deployed. > > …and the archives for everything is still around. > As mentioned in my original email, the list archives will remain available. They will be in the same format they are now, same location, same look. > > Mail is boring but very very long-term stable. > > Forums are cool, sexy and keeps changing so we loose history because the > cost of mirgrating old postings and comments is way too high and the > marketing department that runs the forums seldom understand the need to > keep it persistent… > > I would encourage keeping a development mailing list. > > /O > > > For self hosting they would need to be completely redone on fresh > infrastructure, fresh distro, fresh software, and hopefully things would > possibly import. They'd also need to be updated to conform to current > standards on sending so that that they don't appear as spam as often. (For > me 25% of emails from the lists go to my spam currently and require manual > involvement) > > For hosted we'd need support for over 2500+ subscribers for the -dev list > if it were to be imported. For commercial entities we could possibly > import, but for something like someone doing that work and effort and > hosting I would not be comfortable providing such information, and people > would need to sign up fresh again. It would also not be something I would > be willing to spend money on due to the low use of the lists. > > Past that - can you explain why it's a bad idea? I've looked at the > interactions for the past few years and while some have existed, they've > been minimal over all. > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 8:28 AM Jaco Kroon <j...@uls.co.za> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> My 5c. Killing the dev list is a bad idea. >> >> Most developers could not care about having to poll forums. It also >> means that stuff that would previously get an audience will now get none. >> >> github discussions are better than forums at least. >> >> May I inquire as to the problem you're having with the ML? Perhaps I >> might be able to assist ... >> >> Kind regards, >> Jaco >> >> On 2023/12/04 14:00, Joshua C. Colp wrote: >> >> Greetings all, >> >> Over the past few years, the use of the Asterisk mailing lists has >> diminished, with far more conversation happening on the Asterisk community >> forums[1]. The state of email, to ensure reliable delivery, has also gotten >> more complicated - emails get caught by spam filters, etc.. To continue the >> mailing lists would require a huge time and resource investment, for >> minimal use. >> >> To that end, we’ve decided to discontinue the mailing lists effective >> February 1st, 2024. >> >> This means the following: >> >> 1. Sending and receiving mailing list emails will no longer be possible. >> 2. The list archives, however, will remain available. >> >> We need to decide the future of the asterisk-dev mailing list; >> specifically, where to hold discussions in the future. There are a few >> options: >> >> 1. A “Development” category exists on https://community.asterisk.org/ >> already that can be used. >> 2. We can use GitHub discussions, which keeps things with the GitHub >> project. >> 3. We can use a hosted mailing list elsewhere. >> >> We suggest option #2, since it keeps things with the GitHub project, >> which is where everything development-related happens now regardless. This >> has been set up and enabled already. >> >> If you have any input, now is the time to state it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Joshua C. Colp >> Asterisk Project Lead >> Sangoma Technologies >> Check us out at www.sangoma.com and www.asterisk.org >> >> > > -- > Joshua C. Colp > Asterisk Project Lead > Sangoma Technologies > Check us out at www.sangoma.com and www.asterisk.org > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-dev mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-dev mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev -- Joshua C. Colp Asterisk Project Lead Sangoma Technologies Check us out at www.sangoma.com and www.asterisk.org
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