Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 November 2005 16:22, Jim Van Meggelen wrote:
>> For a corporate entity looking for a more formal look at this
>> new-fangled open-source telecom phenomenon, I suspect they'll
>> find their money was well spent. The folks at IPSandO have
>> produced some very well regarded seminars, conferences,
>> training and what-all else. For a manager with a $10,000
>> training budget per employee (pretty typical in telecom, if I
>> recall), that $200 would be well spent, I'd warrant.
> 
> Well that's the whole point -- For those large companies with
> the $10k budget
> just for training they'll have already gone with one of the
> commercial vendors who come knocking (Mitel in particular)... 
> It's my observation that Asterisk is a HUGE hit with the SOHO
> and SMB crowds... the 
> crowds who look at
> a $200 seminar and say "huh?"

I don't disagree, but there's definitely interest in the big players -
they're just not saying anything. Guess we'll have to ask Leif at the
next get-together what the demographics were.

> I mean hell the all-day very technical seminars I used to go
> to for embedded
> stuff were only half that and in places like the convention
> centre or what I
> refer to as the "old" convention centre south of YYZ.  They
> had breakfast and
> lunch provided, you walked away with a fairly hefty set of
> manuals, binders
> and usually some kind of bag, pen, shirt, etc. all marketing
> the company who
> put it on (Analog Devices, TI, Burr-Brown, Microchip and
> National Semiconductor, to name a few)...  These are all larger
> companies than Digium,
> sure, but even the smaller lunch'n'learns put on by companies
> like J&D
> Systems and MiSYS were four or five hours long and included
> lunch, gratis.
> 
> I'm just saying that Digium seems to be looking at this as an
> opportunity to make money, both by having them over and also
> by getting them sold on Asterisk and Digium hardware...  I
> don't know how effective that is. 

Efffective? That's a fair question. Still, I like the fact that they are
promoting this thing as more than a hacker's toy, so I wish them
success.

The thing is, if you do it for free you get a bunch of geeks looking for
a free lunch. If you charge, then no one shows up. 

Catch-22
 
>> <plug>Or you can buy our book</plug>
> 
> Very, very true.  However people inclined to buy the book are
> already interested enough to make an effort to learn.  These
> "meet 
> and greets" are
> usually aimed at a far less inclined crowd, and US$200 will
> push a lot of
> them away.

Very possibly true. This is a pretty big neighborhood, though, so I hope
they at least break even.

Jim.

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