I'll take this offline with you Henry. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:56 PM
> To: TAUG
> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] expenses summary & catch 22
> 
> Doug ...get a grip.
> We are not demonstrating farm equipment here.
> This insurance is NOT mandatory.
> Our group does'nt even have membership fees so why would we be
expected to
> have
> $2 million liability insurance ? + fire and thieft ect.
> Who would the policy be made out to "TAUG" is NOT a legal entity.
> 
> We are already over budget and spending money like a drunk sailor.
> If you can get enough donations by Monday then fine but just saying we
> need more donations
> is not helpful. As for the other "Stuff" if we can save a few bucks
whats
> wrong with that?
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Geary wrote:
> > Henry, Convention hall insurance does not cover TAUG's liability if
> > TAUG's equipment ends up setting fire to the building, or if someone
> > happens to do something stupid in our booth and ends up in a
wheelchair.
> >
> >
> > TAUG organizers become personally liable, and since there is not a
> > blanket liabilty policy in effect for TAUG, I think it is important
to
> > protect Simon's personal assets. No volunteer should be put in the
> > position of financial ruin, no matter how slim the risk. We just
need to
> > collect more donations.
> >
> > The other stuff is just the cost of doing trade shows. I agree it's
> > expensive.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:34 PM
> >>To: TAUG
> >>Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] expenses summary & catch 22
> >>
> >>Hi Simon, I really don't think we need insurance.
> >>The general insurance coverage of the organizers and convention hall
> >
> > will
> >
> >>cover
> >>all liabilities. We can post a disclaimer in the booth something
like:
> >>TAUG excepts no liability for any .......
> >>But even this is going too far.
> >>
> >>Didn't someone have a table?... I think that $300 for the rental of
> >
> > one
> >
> >>table is outrageous.
> >>and $134 for a carpet(rug) makes me think I am in the wrong
business.
> >
> > Lets
> >
> >>see if we can use
> >>the resources we have within the group.
> >>
> >>Henry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Simon P. Ditner wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>VON Booth
> >>>---------
> >>> Power - 139+GST = $148.73
> >>> Draped Table & Carpet - 297.45+tax = $342.06
> >>>
> >>> Total: $490.79
> >>>
> >>>Linux World Booth
> >>>-----------------
> >>> Power - 103+GST = $110.21
> >>> Wood Table - 27+tax = $31.05
> >>> Carpet - 134 = $154.10
> >>>
> >>> Total: $295.36
> >>>
> >>>Total Costs: $786.15
> >>>
> >>>This will overrun our existing pledges of $660 by about $130 --
> >
> > which
> >
> >>>isn't too bad, considering we're doing twice as much, and couple of
> >>>people have told me they we're going to kick in, but hadn't yet :-)
> >>>
> >>>Now, there is one question that came up that is plaguing me and
> >
> > making
> >
> >>me
> >>
> >>>feel uneasy, and that's insurance. Since we aren't an official
> >>>organization, we don't have a general insurer, and my name is on
> >>>everything, so I'm liable if something "bad" happens. Insurance for
> >>>LinuxWorld would be $189 for $2 million in coverage, officially
they
> >>>require it, but we can get away without it.
> >>>
> >>>VON has told me that they don't require insurance, but again, I'd
be
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>liable party.
> >>>
> >>>I've asked a couple of you already, but it's not clear to me what I
> >>>should do, as this would add about another $400 of costs -- advice
> >>>anyone?
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>spd
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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