It's not that I don't think Simon isn't doing a great job but he did ask what
he should do
I said if it is not mandatory then don't bother but if he feels more
comfortable then go ahead.
I just hope that the membership will come up with the extra donations(which is
a financial risk).
Anyway, I going to look at Monty Python now.
TTFN
Henry
Dave Donovan wrote:
Henry, I agree that the world shouldn't be this way but it is. I have
to agree with Doug. It's entirely unfair to ask Simon, who already does
plenty out of the goodness of his heart, to assume any liability
(although admittedly small).
Unfortunately, if we have to trade off a table or something, then maybe
those are the breaks.
Is it too late to change the name on the booth? I could put it under my
corporation's name. I don't have a blanket insurance policy but I could
bankrupt the thing before they took my home. Is that a better
comprimise? I somebody else incorporated with the proper insurance
already that would be willing to do the registration in their name.
Bottom line: It's not reasonable to ask Simon to take the bullet on this
one. We shoudl pull together and find a solution.
Dave
On 3/30/06, Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Doug ...get a grip.
We are not demonstrating farm equipment here.
This insurance is NOT mandatory.
Our group does'nt even have membership fees so why would we be
expected to have
$2 million liability insurance ? + fire and thieft ect.
Who would the policy be made out to "TAUG" is NOT a legal entity.
We are already over budget and spending money like a drunk sailor.
If you can get enough donations by Monday then fine but just saying
we need more donations
is not helpful. As for the other "Stuff" if we can save a few bucks
whats wrong with that?
Henry
Doug Geary wrote:
> Henry, Convention hall insurance does not cover TAUG's liability if
> TAUG's equipment ends up setting fire to the building, or if someone
> happens to do something stupid in our booth and ends up in a
wheelchair.
>
>
> TAUG organizers become personally liable, and since there is not a
> blanket liabilty policy in effect for TAUG, I think it is
important to
> protect Simon's personal assets. No volunteer should be put in the
> position of financial ruin, no matter how slim the risk. We just
need to
> collect more donations.
>
> The other stuff is just the cost of doing trade shows. I agree it's
> expensive.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>>Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:34 PM
>>To: TAUG
>>Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] expenses summary & catch 22
>>
>>Hi Simon, I really don't think we need insurance.
>>The general insurance coverage of the organizers and convention hall
>
> will
>
>>cover
>>all liabilities. We can post a disclaimer in the booth something
like:
>>TAUG excepts no liability for any .......
>>But even this is going too far.
>>
>>Didn't someone have a table?... I think that $300 for the rental of
>
> one
>
>>table is outrageous.
>>and $134 for a carpet(rug) makes me think I am in the wrong business.
>
> Lets
>
>>see if we can use
>>the resources we have within the group.
>>
>>Henry
>>
>>
>>
>>Simon P. Ditner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>VON Booth
>>>---------
>>> Power - 139+GST = $148.73
>>> Draped Table & Carpet - 297.45+tax = $342.06
>>>
>>> Total: $490.79
>>>
>>>Linux World Booth
>>>-----------------
>>> Power - 103+GST = $110.21
>>> Wood Table - 27+tax = $31.05
>>> Carpet - 134 = $154.10
>>>
>>> Total: $295.36
>>>
>>>Total Costs: $786.15
>>>
>>>This will overrun our existing pledges of $660 by about $130 --
>
> which
>
>>>isn't too bad, considering we're doing twice as much, and couple of
>>>people have told me they we're going to kick in, but hadn't yet :-)
>>>
>>>Now, there is one question that came up that is plaguing me and
>
> making
>
>>me
>>
>>>feel uneasy, and that's insurance. Since we aren't an official
>>>organization, we don't have a general insurer, and my name is on
>>>everything, so I'm liable if something "bad" happens. Insurance for
>>>LinuxWorld would be $189 for $2 million in coverage, officially they
>>>require it, but we can get away without it.
>>>
>>>VON has told me that they don't require insurance, but again,
I'd be
>
> the
>
>>>liable party.
>>>
>>>I've asked a couple of you already, but it's not clear to me what I
>>>should do, as this would add about another $400 of costs -- advice
>>>anyone?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>spd
>>>
>>>
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