I have to agree with Henry, as far as his actual point, most the time these types of insurances are for the presenters equipment. None of the equipement we have is that expensive, and everyone can at worst sign a waever.
As far as getting sued, you can get sued if someone trips in your house, or if you spilled hot coffee on someone, so the risk of getting sued isn't compounded by attending the VON and incidently, it would be shared by anyone working at the booth, not just Simon. ---- Shidan On 3/30/06, Dave Donovan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Henry, I agree that the world shouldn't be this way but it is. I have to > agree with Doug. It's entirely unfair to ask Simon, who already does plenty > out of the goodness of his heart, to assume any liability (although > admittedly small). > > Unfortunately, if we have to trade off a table or something, then maybe > those are the breaks. > > Is it too late to change the name on the booth? I could put it under my > corporation's name. I don't have a blanket insurance policy but I could > bankrupt the thing before they took my home. Is that a better comprimise? > I somebody else incorporated with the proper insurance already that would be > willing to do the registration in their name. > > Bottom line: It's not reasonable to ask Simon to take the bullet on this > one. We shoudl pull together and find a solution. > > Dave > > > On 3/30/06, Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doug ...get a grip. > > We are not demonstrating farm equipment here. > > This insurance is NOT mandatory. > > Our group does'nt even have membership fees so why would we be expected to > have > > $2 million liability insurance ? + fire and thieft ect. > > Who would the policy be made out to "TAUG" is NOT a legal entity. > > > > We are already over budget and spending money like a drunk sailor. > > If you can get enough donations by Monday then fine but just saying we > need more donations > > is not helpful. As for the other "Stuff" if we can save a few bucks whats > wrong with that? > > > > Henry > > > > > > > > Doug Geary wrote: > > > Henry, Convention hall insurance does not cover TAUG's liability if > > > TAUG's equipment ends up setting fire to the building, or if someone > > > happens to do something stupid in our booth and ends up in a wheelchair. > > > > > > > > > TAUG organizers become personally liable, and since there is not a > > > blanket liabilty policy in effect for TAUG, I think it is important to > > > protect Simon's personal assets. No volunteer should be put in the > > > position of financial ruin, no matter how slim the risk. We just need to > > > collect more donations. > > > > > > The other stuff is just the cost of doing trade shows. I agree it's > > > expensive. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:34 PM > > >>To: TAUG > > >>Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] expenses summary & catch 22 > > >> > > >>Hi Simon, I really don't think we need insurance. > > >>The general insurance coverage of the organizers and convention hall > > > > > > will > > > > > >>cover > > >>all liabilities. We can post a disclaimer in the booth something like: > > >>TAUG excepts no liability for any ....... > > >>But even this is going too far. > > >> > > >>Didn't someone have a table?... I think that $300 for the rental of > > > > > > one > > > > > >>table is outrageous. > > >>and $134 for a carpet(rug) makes me think I am in the wrong business. > > > > > > Lets > > > > > >>see if we can use > > >>the resources we have within the group. > > >> > > >>Henry > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Simon P. Ditner wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>VON Booth > > >>>--------- > > >>> Power - 139+GST = $148.73 > > >>> Draped Table & Carpet - 297.45+tax = $342.06 > > >>> > > >>> Total: $490.79 > > >>> > > >>>Linux World Booth > > >>>----------------- > > >>> Power - 103+GST = $110.21 > > >>> Wood Table - 27+tax = $31.05 > > >>> Carpet - 134 = $154.10 > > >>> > > >>> Total: $295.36 > > >>> > > >>>Total Costs: $786.15 > > >>> > > >>>This will overrun our existing pledges of $660 by about $130 -- > > > > > > which > > > > > >>>isn't too bad, considering we're doing twice as much, and couple of > > >>>people have told me they we're going to kick in, but hadn't yet :-) > > >>> > > >>>Now, there is one question that came up that is plaguing me and > > > > > > making > > > > > >>me > > >> > > >>>feel uneasy, and that's insurance. Since we aren't an official > > >>>organization, we don't have a general insurer, and my name is on > > >>>everything, so I'm liable if something "bad" happens. Insurance for > > >>>LinuxWorld would be $189 for $2 million in coverage, officially they > > >>>require it, but we can get away without it. > > >>> > > >>>VON has told me that they don't require insurance, but again, I'd be > > > > > > the > > > > > >>>liable party. > > >>> > > >>>I've asked a couple of you already, but it's not clear to me what I > > >>>should do, as this would add about another $400 of costs -- advice > > >>>anyone? > > >>> > > >>>Cheers, > > >>>spd > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > David Donovan > Consultant > Fulcrum Solutions
