Andrew
Its funny/tragic that bt and wifi don't seem to get along yet like you, both 
work perfectly on my laptop (802.11g). I've been looking at replacing my 
blackberry with the relatively new htc p4000 (non-branded 6800) and again, 
they've got the same feedback already about stutter on the bt  when using wifi 
as they share the antenna
For me, the limits on the blackberry (no sip client, no media player) are 
driving my push to get rid of this 7130 for something better. 
As we were talking earlier today (I was the guy in the orange/white shirt at 
lunch), lots of these technologies have potential, but they just always seem to 
miss on the delivery. The Aastra implementation is no different. Cellular type 
deployment but no dynamic power management. No load balancing algorithms. A few 
other gripes too but we'll see what happens.  
Isn't technology wonderful.   Aggh!

Dave Bour
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----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Kohlsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu Jul 19 18:11:19 2007
Subject: [on-asterisk] Aastra SIP-DECT, and a rant about lack of Bluetooth in 
general

First of all,

THANK YOU REZA FOR EXTENDING THIS INVITATION TO TAUG MEMBERS!!

I generally don't like to "waste my time" with seminars and training in 
general, but this particular one was short, informative and timely.  The 
presenters were technical and sociable, and could present their information 
to a mixed audience.  As many of you know, I have been searching for that 
ideal wireless solution for some time now, and was just setting my sights on 
DECT.

This product looks great, both from a technical standpoint and from an 
aesthetic standpoint.  There are some "one point oh" shortcomings but 
certainly nothing they have shown looks to be a dealbreaker; I don't think 
there are any real design issues in this product at all, and those who know 
me KNOW how hard I am on product designers.  :-)

I've also been evaluating Polycom's branding of the KIRK DECT solution, but it 
seems that that's just more aimed toward a POTS interface, which has SERIOUS 
shortcomings in terms of integration.  (They have IP connectivity too, does 
anyone have any experiences with it?)  Unfortunately, with the exception of 
the 5020, they all look like bars of soap.  :-(

I've still got this BIG requirement for bluetooth connectivity, and upon 
hearing that DECT phones should interoperate, I set out to see if ANY DECT 
phone (EU or US DECT) had it...  and I am totally, completely and utterly 
flabbergasted.

I am so much so that I am seriously looking at contacting an OEM and looking 
at modifying a design and selling my own goddamned brand of DECT and wifi 
phones.

Now as you all know I'm a technical sort.  I design complex electronic 
hardware for a living.  I also know enough to be dangerous when it comes to 
RF design and communications in general.

I know that BT and wifi share the 2.4GHz band, and that is the standard 
idiotic answer I get as to why no wifi phone has BT.  However I have also 
taken "bare" CSR BT chipsets and integrated them into hardware so I *KNOW* 
that both BT and wifi chipsets have methods for sharing the 2.4GHz radio, 
LNA, PA and antenna.  The second-prize excuse is that wifi and BT both need 
to physically "own" the airtime for too long to properly share the band.   
This doesn't wash, either, as I have personally taken my laptop and used a BT 
headset with the 802.11b network connection and have had perfect-quality 
conversations.  802.11g can only be better, as the dot-g network time would 
be significantly shorter at higher speeds.

So with both of those "technical" excuses out the window, and myself having 
personal experience doing the "impossible" with a laptop...  Why aren't we 
seeing this?  Am I and the people around me the only ones who can see the 
utility in a Bluetooth-capable wifi or DECT phone?

Help me out here guys... I know I'm about three tomatoes short of a really 
thick sauce, but I'm not *that* crazy.

-A.

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