Having had some experience in deregulation in Eastern Europe and before that with deregulation in the US (baby Bells). I can qualify that most of what has been said is correct. All of the countries that have "deregulated" have in fact imposed a "policing" of the industry to protect the public. Deregulation doesn't mean "free-for-all". Regulatory bodies such as the CRTC do not really comprehend the telecom industry. Innovations such as VoIP are outside the generally accepted guidelines for wire-line and mobile services. An early and fundamental "regulation" question is...is it "Data" or "Voice"?, then came "who owns the telephone number? All these questions (and more) establish the organizers of deregulation as the next generation of regulators. After all, would the CRTC ever say "well thats it guys we no longer need to concern ourselves with this industry" - we should all find ourselves another job on Monday morning" The answer is a resounding NO!
Thats my 2 cents (or maybe three) -- Henry < Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast> > John: > > Thanks a million for getting all this clarified! Looks like I have > to make > some corrections on my future slide presentations and be a little > bit more > specific about regulation and de-regulation. > > Cheers! > Reza. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:16 PM > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Scary Call from Bell Muscle Men... > > > On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 12:08 -0500, Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast wrote: >> John: >> >> " Just a small bit of clarification; the industry has not been >> deregulated. Far from it. " >> >> Can you please clarify? Are you 100% sure the industry has not be >> de-regulated? > > 100% sure. > >> There was a time when one could not be an ITSP or small >> companies could not provide phone services with their own >> equipment. No >> one >> could provide phone services other than the ILEC or the CLEC. > > Technically, the same still holds true today. > >> Speaking with the guys at Industry Canada / CRTC -- anyone can >> apply for >> licenses these days and when you pay the right fee with the >> correct paper >> work submission, obtaining a license is relatively straight >> forward. > > If there was no regulation then you wouldn't have to apply for a > license. What you just described is a regulatory process. > >> Becoming a CLEC is a different story. If the industry was not >> de-regulated... then as per your claim, we are doing illegal >> business. > > If you were operating as a CLEC or an ILEC without a license then it > would be illegal. But all VoIP providers that I'm aware of are > operating > as "Resellers". Never the less, if you are a reseller you still have > to > be registered at the CRTC or you are operating illegally. > (Registration > can be done online and it's free.) > >> Are you talking about "De-regulation" as in regulating "prices". >> If >> that's >> the case I completely agree with you. > > There are varying levels and types of deregulation. What the CRTC > typically does is "forbear" from regulating prices which technically > isn't the same as deregulating but looks a lot like it. > > Resellers are technically not regulated at all because the law which > dictates what the CRTC can regulate doesn't mention reselling. > However, > they do regulate the LECs and indirectly they exert control over the > resellers. > > So for example; the CRTC tells the LECs that they should disconnect > any > reseller that doesn't provide 911 service. > >> When I am using the term >> "De-regulation", I mean anyone can be a telephone company or an >> ITSP these >> days regardless of them being an ILEC and CLEC. > > Anyone can be a CLEC provided you obtain the proper licenses and > follow > the rules (and have about 2.5 million to drop on the necessary > equipment > etc.) > >> Please provide your thoughts and feedback on this when you have a >> chance. > > Back in the 80s & 90s the CRTC changed the regulations to allow > competition in long distance and for local service. > > -- > John Lange > President > Canadian Association of Voice Over IP Service Providers. > 1-866-940-CAVP (2287) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
