Its the regulations that allow ITSPs to compete with the regulated phone companies. If it wasn't regulated, companies like Bell and Telus could sell VoIP lines for a fraction of what they do now whenever competition got stiff and not have to worry about selling it with a certain minimum set of guarantees and conditions to resellers. The only companies that would survive are the ones that owned the last mile. Telecom deregulation is a very bad thing, almost as bad as having a tiered internet. In the short run it would help consumers because of the cut throat ways the ILECS and other last mile providers would ruin their competition, but in the long run it would hurt them as no new companies would risk venturing into this space. We should actually have more regulations to stop the obvious telecom collusion and open up more elements of the networks to others, specially pertaining to DSL and WISP services.
--- Shidan On Dec 7, 2007 12:42 PM, Bill Sandiford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reza: > > I think when most people refer to de-regulation in the industry they are > referring to the CRTC telling the incumbents what they can and cannot sell > you and at what price. > > The only reason most ITSPs are in business (apart from intelligence and > business savvy) is because the CRTC decided (with a few small exceptions ie > 911, etc) not to regulate VoIP (unless it was being sold by an ILEC) > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "John Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Scary Call from Bell Muscle Men... > > > > John: > > > > " Just a small bit of clarification; the industry has not been > > deregulated. Far from it. " > > > > Can you please clarify? Are you 100% sure the industry has not be > > de-regulated? There was a time when one could not be an ITSP or small > > companies could not provide phone services with their own equipment. No > > one > > could provide phone services other than the ILEC or the CLEC. > > > > Speaking with the guys at Industry Canada / CRTC -- anyone can apply for > > licenses these days and when you pay the right fee with the correct paper > > work submission, obtaining a license is relatively straight forward. > > Becoming a CLEC is a different story. If the industry was not > > de-regulated... then as per your claim, we are doing illegal business. > > > > Are you talking about "De-regulation" as in regulating "prices". If > > that's > > the case I completely agree with you. When I am using the term > > "De-regulation", I mean anyone can be a telephone company or an ITSP these > > days regardless of them being an ILEC and CLEC. > > > > Please provide your thoughts and feedback on this when you have a chance. > > > > Best, > > Reza. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Scary Call from Bell Muscle Men... > > > > > > On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 21:56 -0500, Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast wrote: > > > >> Thanks to the de-regulation of the industry... its provided the smaller > >> guys for greater opportunities... and if the big guns like Bell, > >> Allstream > >> and others are not quick to change -- they will loose millions in > >> revenue. > >> They already are. > > > > Just a small bit of clarification; the industry has not been > > deregulated. Far from it. In almost every area of Canada the rates the > > ILEC charges is set artificially high to encourage competition. > > > > Up until recently the ILECs were not allowed to compete on price for any > > wireline service. However, with the introduction and subsequent success > > of cable VoIP (Rogers, Shaw, etc), most residential service in Canada > > where cable VoIP exists is now free from economic (price) regulation. > > > > Note that this applies to residential, not business service. > > > > In the above described scenario; Bell is the ILEC, Allstream is the > > CLEC. Bell is price regulated; Allstream is not. > > > > Regards, > > -- > > John Lange > > President > > Canadian Association of Voice Over IP Service Providers. > > 1-866-940-CAVP (2287) > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
