Maybe you had this account for a very long time and the hacker had your data 
from years ago?

Did you reset your SIP passwords each time you got hacked in the past?

On 2013-01-21, at 4:29 PM, Roger Si <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> the account was blocked by unlimitel yesterday after it was hacked  (which 
> was good by the way)
> 
> i didn't ask them to unblock it. so i don't know if the account is still 
> hacked. 
> 
> to Stephan's  point, i probably should reset portal password as well.
> 
> 
> but, my question is,  why always unlimitel?  I am using other ITSP, they 
> don't have problem for last 2-3 years.
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> On 2013-01-21, at 4:24 PM, Stéphan Monette <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Was your account still hacked after resetting your passwords?
>> 
>> On 2013-01-21, at 4:22 PM, Roger Si <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I used 3CX soft phone version 1.1.5 running on iPhone 5 on Fido's LTE 
>>> network to make some phone calls before the account is comprised yesterday 
>>> evening..
>>> 
>>> of course, I reset passwords in unlimited portal afterwards.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Roger
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-21, at 3:54 PM, Mike - QTI <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Stephan, Very good points!
>>>> 
>>>> Also you should reverse search your IP in http://www.shodanhq.com/ . I had
>>>> a user who did not change the admin password on their ATA and it was
>>>> exposed to the internet. So hackers just went to the ATA web maint page,
>>>> used the default credentials and then scrape the account information. Then
>>>> used the account to call cell phones in Moscow. Found his IP and device in
>>>> the Shodan Database.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Stéphan Monette
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Roger,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just to make sure I didn't left my list of userids and passwords in some
>>>>> file with Google or somewhere else, I would first login into the web 
>>>>> portal
>>>>> and reset my SIP and IAX passwords.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've seen a lot of people with their Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo Mail accounts
>>>>> hacked without them knowing about it. Sometimes; the hackers are getting
>>>>> the userids and passwords from the saved emails you have left in your 
>>>>> Gmail
>>>>> or other free email services! They usually look for bank account data, but
>>>>> they would sell any good information to anyone willing to pay for it
>>>>> including SIP accounts info!
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the past when I was working on the Unlimitel systems, we made sure the
>>>>> username and passwords could not be guessed. We even stopped sending
>>>>> passwords by email! And we would still see users having their passwords
>>>>> stolen because they shared a Google drive (docs back then) with someone
>>>>> else who got their google account hacked!!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> After Primus took over, they even went an extra step by blocking any IP
>>>>> that would fail to register a SIP account to stop hackers from guessing
>>>>> Unlimitel SIP passwords.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The web portal is designed so that your browser do not cache any infos!
>>>>> The passwords are not even listed in TEXT on the web portal to make sure
>>>>> customers with some sort of virus or malware could spy on your data! So if
>>>>> the hackers were able to make calls using your SIP credentials, this means
>>>>> they had the right data on hand and never got blocked because they never
>>>>> failed the SIP authentication.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I would suggest to reset your passwords (using the web portal) and do
>>>>> not save your passwords list anywhere on your computer or cloud storage
>>>>> services.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That should stop them. If not, use a different tools or softphone!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-01-21, at 3:20 PM, Mark Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Roger,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there a chance the phone was compromised?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You didn't say what phone or app you were using.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Android phones seem to have a swiss cheese security model, and many apps
>>>>> are not always as they seem.....
>>>>>> I'm not sure the iPhones are much better.
>>>>>> I've automatically discounted Windows phones.... :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a remote ATA with Unlimitel, and I haven't had such a problem....
>>>>> yet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /M
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/21/2013 9:33 AM, Yajie wrote:
>>>>>>> this has been pain in the ass. as soon as I make some international
>>>>> calls
>>>>>>> for several days, my account will be hacked, hacker made a lot of calls
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> high rate country in no time and my account will be blocked by
>>>>> Unlimitel.
>>>>>>> this happened at least 5 times in last two years. my friend has same
>>>>> issue
>>>>>>> too. interestingly, i didn't use asterisk to make calls recently, but a
>>>>>>> SIP softphone on my cell phone. so there is no way hacker can hack
>>>>> into my
>>>>>>> asterisk. I know unlimtel has much restrict password rule than any other
>>>>>>> ITSP i used. but only unlimitel got hacked every time . Do you guys know
>>>>>>> why? or i really should abandon Unlimitel's ship? Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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