We could also very probably set up a relay between Discord and the ATS 
users group here that would send a daily/weekly digest from Discord to 
here, and maybe also reciprocally on Discord a notification that a new 
email has arrived on the users group. I'm not sure about that, but worth 
investigating IMO.

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 9:30:45 PM UTC+1 Yann Le Du wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks for sharing what I believe is a well founded concern. I think the 
> easy solution is to use a bot that relays messages between Discord and IRC 
> : 
>
> https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
>
> I happen to be on some channels that use that solution, and it works 
> nicely : messages arising from such a relay are marked "bot" but keep their 
> pseudo, so it is really seamless. That would perhaps solve the privacy 
> problem (identity of users) though not the content, but I don't think that 
> would be a problem given we would talk about ATS, would it ?
>
> That means reactivating the irc channel, and then have a go for it. Would 
> you find that an acceptable solution ?
>
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:47 PM UTC+1 mjt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Yann,
>>
>> There are many reasons to not use Discord.  Centralizing all public 
>> communication with Discord and a login session is mainly for marketing and 
>> advertising purposes.  While using Google Groups may have a similar 
>> situation, email remains more reliable because it is closer to a 
>> peer-to-peer architecture.  Other reasons provided elsewhere are 
>> accessibility (e.g., vision impaired access) which is better with email.  
>> Having public transparency with persistent communication is best with 
>> email.  I haven't yet seen a good comprehensive list of problems with 
>> Discord but perhaps that content may grow as programming language 
>> communities get confronted with Discord more (i.e., their mailing-list mode 
>> is not a solution).
>>
>> One list of problems is provided at 
>> https://sneak.berlin/20200220/discord-is-not-an-acceptable-choice-for-free-software-projects/
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On 1/26/22 9:33 AM, Yann Le Du wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I tried the irc channel mentioned on the ATS website, but there was 
>> nobody there.
>>
>> I already mentioned the idea of creating such a channel on Discord, with 
>> which I have excellent experience (as long as you do not sidetrack too much 
>> on the personal side...), but that was buried under a pile of other 
>> questions...
>>
>> So would anyone else here also see a benefit in such a discussion channel 
>> ? I personally think it would help build the community and spread the word.
>>
>> If that proposal was found to be interesting for a large enough number of 
>> people, there would have to be a administrator of the channel, and of 
>> course that cannot be me except if I create an unofficial one, clearly 
>> marked as such, and in which I would put a big disclaimer : "created by a 
>> total noob, participate at your own risk".
>>
>> Of course, having Hongwei create it is the only meaningful option, but 
>> perhaps that would be too much of a hassle ?
>>
>> Let me add that this channel could be an invite-only one, which would 
>> thus avoid the problem of having to deal with trolls and advertisers.
>>
>> If that could be of any help : 
>> https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/204849977-How-do-I-create-a-server
>> -
>>
>> *Trivia* : By the way did you know that "a type" in french, apart from 
>> the semantics that befits ATS, also means "a guy" ? So the right 
>> translation into French of ATS is "Système de typage avancé" where, apart 
>> from the total reversal of the letters, you might notice the use of the 
>> word "typage" instead of "type", otherwise the meaning would completely 
>> change.
>>
>> Yann
>>
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